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  1. 4 points
    I visited Heritage recently and some takeaways from my visit. Ren Wall is such a Great Person. He gave me a tour through the factory. A lot of activity in the shop. CNC machined is in place making bodies for Harmony only. The shop is expanding with a room for buffing and a room for metal machining to make parts for their machines. Pete Farmer has over a dozen special Custom builds going on. Pete's enthusiasm is contagious and genuine. Jim Deurloo is still working in the shop doing his thing. If fact the first time I saw him I went to shake his hand and held me up, he had just nicked himself and was headed to get a bandage. Nothing major. Ren shared stories of delivering Lucille to BB King, playing in a golf tournament on Roy Clark's team and other gems. I told Ren he should write a book on all his experiences. He said at one point he almost did, he and the writer didn't see eye to eye. Ren has been through hell and back this year with health issues. He is on the mend and looks good. Say a prayer for him to continue to heal. I felt good on the ride back about Heritage. Production is steady and they are producing a great product. I put my hands on a few Harmony guitars and was impressed. Nice fit and finish. All in all a Great Visit!
  2. 4 points
    The future of Heritage Guitar is brighter than anything that could have been predicted. Who would have guessed that the company would survive the original owners retirement? And now with the amazing stuff coming out of the Custom Shop and the consistency now in the new Heritages coming off of the line. It's an amazing feat has taken place to the little company that should not have survived all of these years. And instead of that historic building just falling into ruin, it will get some much needed attention. No one would have believed it if you'd predicted it. A museum .. yes please. Rooftop bier garden .. oh yes. It'll take some time.. but Heritage Guitar is still alive and well, after many close calls on it's survival.
  3. 3 points
    I do enjoy clips like this when YouTube's recommendation engine really knocks it out of the park 😉
  4. 3 points
    I have cats, I'll get them to check
  5. 3 points
    Hangar, part of that might be that the pricing on a lot of used guitars has gone from fair to questionable to completely insane. It started with the '59 LP Burst craziness, and now everyone who has an old guitar thinks its worth 3-5 times what it was worth 10 years ago because it's old and has "mojo". Sorry, but those Norlin LPs from the late 70s with 3 piece bodies that sold new for $600 are NOT all going to be worth $3-4000. It used to be that when you bought a guitar it went down in value. Now people think that after 5 years its worth 25% more than they paid for it. Sorry, but it's not reality. The "collectable" mentality can be expensive. Anyone who has a stash of Beanie Babies, Trolls, or Cabbage Patch dolls will tell you that.
  6. 3 points
    And a quick update..time is limited..The Eagle Has Landed! I picked it up after working a long shift just before GC closed Friday night. While it was in transit I tried to determine the return policy. I swear I read the fine print on the GC site, but it was murky, there is "vintage" (3 day return) and there is "used" mentioned with no definitions I could find. So I planned that it would be considered Vintage which meant I needed a good strategy to eval it in 3 days around my work schedule and leave time to get it back there if needed (yes I overthink sometimes ha ha the school of hard knocks at work I guess). The guy at the CA store called it Vintage but it had "45 day return" on the price tag at the CA store. Gitfiddler sent me a picture on my phone which I had ready to show the NJ GC guys. No need, as they explained their used gear is considered "vintage" at the 25 yr mark. Mine squeaked by with a few years to spare. So 45 days it is. In case anyone else is confused on their policy, there it it as per the mgr at the store. Got it home and unboxed..the H case looked like it was brand new..a good sign in deed. Opened it up and I had a small uh uh moment..there was a red wire poking out from under the pick guard. I assumed the electronics would be dead, (I was wrong, they worked). And the pick up was kind of askew, treble end actually making contact to the top. Also the wood block usually in the middle of the tailpiece was in the case pocket (mine had a plain one, no "Golden Eagle Badge") But cosmetically it was in great shape for it's age, some light pick marks on the guard and maybe a tiny ding or two if you really look, frets perfect, neck dead straight with no relief, (pretty much as I do it), and a few tiny marks hardly visible on the tailpiece where the wood block must have been, Tossed on a set of D'Addario Jazz Lights (.012 high E wound G)..the old ones were.. OLD..black and light gauge... I pulled off the pick guard a few times that night (happy to see it was wooden). The stray red wire turned out to be a connection to the body of the pot..a ground wire to nowhere..maybe for a possible coil split for another pickup up IDK. I quickly saw ony two possible adjustments to make the pick up and pick guard position move, the mounting bracket and the pick guard mounting area near the fingerboard, so a small bend of the bracket and a tweek of the height of the of the guard up by the finger board got the pup parallel to the strings and off the body. By then it was after midnight and I was finally satisfied with the little stuff bugging me to actually play it. It was very nice acoustically, having never played an actual acoustic arch top I have no reference points, but it was nice. My big revelation moment was when I plugged it into the amp I had out, DB's old Traynor from the 70's withEL84s. And there was that voice I had heard on jazz recordings , kind of like a bell, so clear, and as RhodesScholar mentioned recently, with the volume on the amp low with the guitar still audible acoustically, it was really special. So a BIG thanks to Gitfiddler, I never would have considered a used one from GC really without having a bro out on the west coast to check it out. And having just missed the local one, this was kind of meant to be.
  7. 3 points
    I could give a care less about the guitar market. I have three really nice guitars and do not need another.
  8. 2 points
    I've been a lurker for a while and have had my eyes on a Heritage for several years now. Finally got one yesterday! It's an H-535 from 2004. It has a little '2' faintly stamped into the back of the headstock. I have no way to verify, but the previous owner said it belonged to a luthier at Heritage before him. Pics: https://imgur.com/a/8CSb3v7
  9. 2 points
    These are definitely worth a try....they totally woke up my H150.
  10. 2 points
    If Heritage was interested in a race to the bottom , pricewise, they would abandon the time consuming techniques that they've always used. The hand rolled neck, the hand shaped arch to a solidbody and many others done by hand could be more automated. But they have yet to show an interest in changing to a cost effective model and many here agree with that decision. We've seen several companies have success in building high quality versions of Gibson and Fender guitars, because a true race to the bottom ends with Asian made instruments being lower cost than US made. It comes to appealing to one of the many changing markets for quality instruments, and they look to be on the right track. We've known from the start that Heritage Guitars of Kalamazoo are not the same as production Gibsons or any other large production brand. They offer something unique and .. inspired.
  11. 2 points
    ThroBak Vintage Choice Strings: 10% off 3 Pack / 20% off 6 Pack
  12. 2 points
    I don't think it would matter over here in Australia. Standards are roughly $4799 compared to the H-150 at $3300, that is a massive difference in price. In reality, the H-150 is a great guitar for a great price that is much more appealing and reasonable than Gibson prices down here.
  13. 2 points
    Wow, that is one sexy 575 you've got there! Welcome to the HOC. Play it in good health.
  14. 2 points
    This guitar is 1) gorgeous, 2) in great condition for its age, 3) sounds fantastic, 4) is super easy playing. Compared to my spruce/hog 575, it is a little brighter and sweeter sounding. Interestingly, the bass notes really jump and resonate. A lot of fun to play this one! HRW's are super articulate and clear just as one would expect. Pics are from seller.
  15. 2 points
    Lately Gibson archtops have been expensive? No. They've been out of commission for decades on their solid carved top prices and are barely a part of that market any more which appears to be how they want it. That's not a recent development. It's far more economical to build popular guitars initially designed to be produce en masse at huge price increases as long as the market bears the price. And many applaud when a ho-hum LP Special guitar is 3K because someone fooled them to believe in there's a $1,000 hunk of mojo wood & craftsmanship hiding inside. Heritage is inching down that path. And, the myth of a need for price increases? Look at the facts. There's a reason bread & butter guitars from Fender & Gibson haven't even kept up with inflation, same goes with many other companies...it's because the overhead is lower than ever. The old American Standard 10 years later became the American Special at a lower price point after inflation, the old Les Paul studio got a satin treatment with bulk up and became the Tribute at a lower price point after inflation. The SG's, Firebirds, and many other models have all seen prices in recent years less than they were in the 90's...after inflation. The same can be said if you look closely at G&L in the past or at the parts builders like Musikraft/Warmoth etc and more. WHY??? Because, productivity & efficiency is off the charts thanks to time management of labor, labor adjusted for inflation is cheap, wood/steel/materials have paced behind inflation, parts from strings to pots to knobs are behind inflation, certain tax structures, accounting predictability of machine governed operations like rough mill (CNC's can't sue for disability) and a whole host of other reasons why regular USA guitars & parts can be made at low prices these days. The reason "custom shop" guitars have doubled in price the past 10 years is because they realized that market segment can & will pay the premium on guitars that aren't by any means custom in their production process. Meanwhile, the floor model market segment can't bear price increase....thus you still have tons of American made guitars between $800-$1500 that in the 90's were $700-$1200, and no, they aren't "loss leaders" otherwise anyone not named Fender/Gibson would be out of business. There's zero reason "crafsman" can't build good old custom ordered USA (and now Europe) carved top guitars between 4-7k in 2019 other than bean counting the margins, consumer interest, lack of knowledge, or just plain laziness. This goes even more so for a place like Heritage where there are specialists who are more efficient at their job than independent small shop builders who might know how to tape binding..but they don't do it 10 times a day so they have to take their time. Yet, those guys without any advantage can crank out the boxes at real world prices. Anyways, now that's all about how well you can build a guitar designed to be mass produced at the highest price possible then brag about "fit and finish" as if you can't get a $300 korean guitar with a perfect "fit and finish" there's no sense for me to argue....it's like throwing play-doh at the wall expecting it to bounce back, lol.
  16. 2 points
    The short answer to the OP's question is yes...and no. Both companies are fighting for customers who are seeking very similar products. Heritage has a LONG way to go to catch up to Gibson's long-established market 'ownership'. That was a given back in 1984 and remains the case in 2019. Even with the new owners at Heritage and a huge infusion of Bandlab cash, Heritage remains pretty much a little known guitar maker on the world stage. I still find myself telling their story to folks admiring my Heritage guitars. Yes, they've gotten some good...no GREAT press recently, but market share remains tiny for our favorite guitar maker. Gibson and Heritage are both going through a necessary and calculated brand reboot. They both decided to slim down their model lines and dramatically increase pricing for their respective Custom Shop models. Have you checked prices of Gibson archtops lately? They're in nosebleed territory. Even a laminate bodied Tal Farlow or ES175, prices are ridiculous. And don't even ask for the price of a new L5 Wes Mo. And wait times are between six months to a year to build one. Yes, Heritage archtops and other custom models are priced high, but nowhere near Gibson's. The modestly priced Heritage custom builds are a thing of the past. If you have one...or two, enjoy them. Otherwise, keep scouring the used market for a unique Heritage custom model. And don't delay. They too are going up in price. My point is to not worry so much about the pricing and models of each company. Each is doing their own thing and trying to make a few dollars along the way. Just the same as Collings, PRS, G&L, Reverend, etc., etc. are doing. Each company is trying to build the best product they can, pricing them to attract new and former customers, and trying to keep the factory lights on. The latest creations from Heritage appear to have addressed some of the former QC 'issues' that the original owners let slide by. Word is that Heritage is building some of the best guitars they've built across the board, even though there are fewer choices. But that is a good thing. And the discerning guitar buying public will get it...and hopefully come to Heritage for their next electric guitar. Hopefully they'll walk away knowing that they got a great value, no matter the price compared to other builders...including Gibson.
  17. 2 points
    I went down to the shop Friday and Ren gave me the tour. CNC machine is in place turning out quite a few Harmony bodies. I put my hands on a couple Harmony guitars. Nice fit and finish. The shop looks good and is expanding with a lot of activity everywhere.
  18. 2 points
    What a great looking guitar! You made a great choice. A great guitar period. y2kc
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  21. 1 point
    ...And don't forget about solid state rectification in most Boogies, all Rivera-era Fenders and many other amps. Bottom line, its the TONE that matters.
  22. 1 point
    Years ago I had Music Man 110 RD-50, which was great little amp in a similar sort of way. It had a solid state preamp (as did all Music Mans/Men), The "Limiter" channel had a 12AX7 tube for the overdrive. Small, loud and good-sounding. I sold it when I got a Boogie Mk IIB.
  23. 1 point
    That is one of the most beautiful guitars I've ever seen! NEVER EVER sell it!
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  25. 1 point
    Heritage is closer to Gibson Custom Shop quality than the production stuff, in my experience. Somewhere in between, really. However, I think they're going to have to get back to offering custom or semi-custom ordering if they want to create a sustainable niche. The new Gibson leadership really seems to have a handle on what to do with the product. The features are what a Gibson buyer wants, and the prices don't make you faint. Can't say I've picked up one of the 2019s to check it out, though. If they can crank out good fretwork on everything, they'll go nuts.
  26. 1 point
    That is gorgeous!
  27. 1 point
    I am so happy that I own a 550 and now I just need to brush the dust off it and play the darn thang!
  28. 1 point
    Much as I love my Tele, the 550 sounds better for jazz. Richer bass, harp-like harmonies, fuller more open sound.
  29. 1 point
    Picture perfect - and with HRW's! 💎
  30. 1 point
    more pics. figured out that adding high res pics is easier on Chrome than Safari. seems like Chrome auto adjusts resolution so it will fit forum file size limits.
  31. 1 point
    Went on a mini binge: 2 in one day! Will probably not keep them both. We'll see when they get here which one gets to stay. At least for the short term I'll have a 4-Heritage house.
  32. 1 point
    another inviting one :-) play it in peace
  33. 1 point
    lovely enjoy it :-)
  34. 1 point
    Great score. I really dig HRW's in archtops. Some folks like to lower them a bit, while other players set them 5-6mm from the strings. I call it 'seasoning to taste'. Play it in good health.
  35. 1 point
    Antique natural. Should be fun. I've already got a spruce/hog 575, and have been wanting to give maple a ride for a long time. Will post pics upon arrival.
  36. 1 point
    My current Heritage lineup
  37. 1 point
    I know...I'm a Heritage whore! I cant help it. I found this historic piece last week. This is a 1990 H157. To most, it looks like a typical Heritage 157...but look closely!!! The early H157s and H150s were rumored to have been made with leftover Gibson bodies that were left behind when Gibson left Kalamazoo in 1984. Heritage started production in 1985. This H157's body is the same shape as a Gibson Les Paul Custom!!! Heritage was threated to be sued by Gibson in 1991 for the body styles of the H157, H150 and the H357 (firebird) So.....Heritage changed the style of the horn cut on their single cut solid body guitars. This is one of the early, "pre lawsuit" H157s! This guitar has all the features of a Les Paul Custom. Mahogany body with a flame maple cap, mahogany neck, ebony board, multi ply binding on the body and peghead and gold hardware. This baby was a mess when I received it. It had been played....a lot. I decided to give this guitar the glamor shots makeover!!! Tone pros locking bridge and tailpiece, locking grover tuners, 1981 Gibson Shaw PAFs (early 137 stamps), and a through buffing and cleanup!!!! The frets have a lot of wear, but it still plays great! It has a thinner, 60s style neck. It weighs in at an average LPC....9.5 lbs. The tone from this guitar is absolutely incredible!!!! Its so woody and warm!!! The Shaws and just a great PAF!!!! IMG_0790 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0808 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0805 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0803 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0799 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0797 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0795 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr IMG_0794 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr
  38. 1 point
    I don't know anything about leftover bodies but when I toured Heritage in 1990 they had bins with hundreds of unfinished Gibsons necks on the second floor.
  39. 1 point
    That one is special, I like the black sides.
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    Right after I did that recording I bought the handwired version and sold the first one. I liked the circuit board one better other than for playing really loud where the handwired one comes alive! They both have their strengths.
  42. 1 point
    That is what I use. For my poor ears it is more than good enough.
  43. 1 point
    This thread is useless without pictures.
  44. 1 point
    Metalheart - cool new Hertiage! By the way - it's my understanding that Gibson opened the Nashville plant in 1974, and most Les Paul production moved there - so it's possible that your Les Paul Custom was built in Nashville.
  45. 1 point
    Can we have a tone and playability report please?
  46. 1 point
    Excellent, I was going to advise to make that long trip and bring home what spoke to you. I was leaning towards the H 150 if you had to choose one and all else was equal. Big congrats. BTY, the new Heritage cases are nice.
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    I kinda thought this statement didn't make sense! Now its confirmed!!!
  49. 1 point
    my favourite H150 has a busted/repaired headstock I also like the fact that I don't have to worry about it I call it "the bastard" :D
  50. 1 point
    Hi there... I'm Geno. - originally from the deep south, live now in the DC area (Maryland). I recently picked up my first Heritage guitar, a very nice 2003 H535 that the previous owner had modified with Wolfetone Dr. Vintage pickups. Very impressed. Makes me want to find a good H150 now... I will be lurking in the marketplace. I'm 55 years old, retired from the Navy Submarine Service 16 years ago, and currently work as a DoD contractor. My background is in Underwater Acoustics, but spend most of my time these days climbing Cell towers to install gadgets for Uncle Sam. I've been playing guitar for 37 years, and in bands for the past 20 years pretty consistently (work permitting). Cover bands, classic rock, blues, country, oldies, etc. I prefer have always preferred Vintage Tube amps, but for the past year and a half, I've been gigging exclusively with a Line 6 helix and really like it. No more heavy cabs for me - the Helix has cured my amp and pedal GAS, so I have more $$ now to buy guitars.

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