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  1. 7 points
    I believe they're doing well, BUT your source has a valid point, because they went from 22 models AND lot's of custom builds down to 6 models and few custom builds- their output has diminished. Sure, they're signing up new dealers BUT they'll have a tough time holding them due to their direct buy push. They are however financially sound for the 1st time ever and they're quite possibly well managed, which is something new also. They're promising exciting things to come next year and only time will tell. meanwhile the Guitars we're receiving are the best they've ever been in terms of fit, finish, playability and component quality. These folks really pay attention to the details and it's much appreciated out here in the hinterlands. Pete & crew are doing a superb job.
  2. 4 points
    Heritage Guitars was run by people with a passion for making guitars not making money. They made a run of it for over thirty years. The new Heritage guitars are not made in the same environment. Face it the "brand" died a few years ago. The future of the new ownership? I could give a shit less.
  3. 4 points
    Working with Bill, Marv, JP, Jim, Ren and Pete - Priceless! There's your value, it's something you can't put a dollar sign on.
  4. 3 points
    I agree that the "tidal wave" of the guitar market may have passed us by. The population that was "Beatles Influenced" is aging and as they do (me included) we tend to sell gear, downsize and drop out of bands. Many guys I know that played in bands are now "home players" and need less gear. They can justify less gear. I am included in this mix. At one point I had as many as 20+ guitars, 5 amps and a boomer PA. I'm now down to 5 guitars, 1 amp and no PA. I think the wave of downsizing will continue. Because of that, more used gear will come on the market with fewer buyers. I think this could easily depress market prices on a permanent basis. I believe my H-576 is a good of a guitar as I've ever owned. Period. But, I don't feel it will hold its value over the long haul because of the above factors. Were it a "brand name", it might stand a chance of holding value a little better. On the other hand, this guitar is not for sale, will be given to my oldest daughter and in my mind is "priceless". Used to be I could get a cup of McDonalds coffee for $1.06 but not any longer. That promotion ended. So, this opinion is worth the price you paid for it or a cup of McDonald's coffee here in Michigan. Take Care. Stringman
  5. 2 points
    I don't worry about the value of any of my Heritage guitars. I can honestly say that I have NEVER given resale value a thought when buying any of my guitars. I bought them because that was a guitar that I wanted to play.
  6. 2 points
    It seemed an appropriate term for a restaurant, roof top bar, museum and performance venue. I didn't mean it in a derogatory way. And then there is the restored plant itself should be great to see.
  7. 2 points
    The Heritage Company could not go on as they were, the owners were unable to collect a paycheck as it wasn't profitable. After all of the renovations , expansions, and new attractions are finished, I'd say the brand will be promoted like it never was under the original owners. With renewed distribution, a larger more well known dealer base, and a focus on a consistent product... it's hard to name a time with a more focused concentration on the business aspect in the company's history. But it remains to be seen what the end result is.
  8. 2 points
    To answer the OP question.... I don't think there will be any difference. Like it or not, Heritage guitars are not notably in the guitar market. They are amazing instruments, but they are not investments. Enjoy them for what they are, high quality guitars. But IMHO they will go the way of Hammer & Guild.... into obscurity whether Heritage Corp continues to make guitars or not.
  9. 2 points
    As a "boomer" let me just say, that ain't funny man!
  10. 2 points
    My name is David. I own several guitars including an early 90's Martin HD-28, an early 90's Fender American Stratocaster, an early 90's Guild GF30 BLD acoustic , a 1970's Guild F212 twelve-string acoustic, a 1984 Takamine classical guitar, a 1970's Dobro Square Neck dobro, a Kentucky F5 mandolin, and several various "beach guitars". The pride of my collection is a 1995 Heritage H-537 in vintage orange. I look forward to joining in on the discussions in the forum.
  11. 2 points
    With my Mesa DC-5 and 5:25 Express, ignorance is bliss. They do what I want. I love 'em just the way they are.
  12. 2 points
    Nomad 55, I hate that amp. It was great, I loved it. I wanted to smash it. Good sounds. Most frustrating amp I have owned. Some of the best guitar sounds on gig recordings I have got was using the Nomad. So conflicted about that amp. I would buy another one if one popped up at a good price, no problem what so ever. I gotta start playing again.
  13. 2 points
    I've got a couple of them, but this one is special!
  14. 2 points
    I own three MB's. A Nomad 55 combo, a .50 caliber +, and a Dual Rec Roadster. None of them are currently running Mesa branded tubes. I'm an avionics technician by trade. I can and have biased amps. However, I dig the fact that I can (although I know I'm not supposed to) just slap my preferred tubes into my Mesa's and play. I do make sure that I have matched pairs or quads. As far as the power question. I use a pedal board and a small rack in my gig set up. The only thing that the little rack houses is a power conditioner.
  15. 2 points
    Specially tested or not, the Mesa Boogie tubes are still the same tubes that everyone else gets from those three remaining tube factories. The exception of course is that they still have some of the Siemens / RFT German produced tubes that everyone was stockpiling in the 80s and 90s. Rivera used those same tubes, and you can still find other dealers who have them. Mesa also seems to have found some SED EL34s from St Petersburg, though I wonder if they are the "really hot bias" tubes you see floating around. Their preamp tubes for the most part are JJs last I checked. The SPAX7 is one tested for microphonics AND that has had a rubber jacket put on to keep it silent. Their power tubes come from all three factories. The EL84s and 6V6's are JJs, the EL34s are Sovtek/EHX, the 5881s are Sovtek and the KT88 and 6L6GC are Ruby/TAD/Chinese The rectifier tubes are almost all Sovtek tubes. There really isn't anything "magical" about the tubes, except that the power tubes are tested to work with the fixed bias that the mesa boogie amps run. For MOST people, who are mainly looking for the massive amount of preamp overdrive that many Mesa Boogie amps provide, they will never need other tubes. The colder bias also does allow more of the hard edge of the overdrive to come out, at least I feel it does. The fixed bias also means that tube dealers can test for tubes that they feel will work well in Mesa Boogie amps. That being said, how hot or cold a tube is biased definitely affects the tone, in a somewhat predictable way. Colder bias results in a less sensitive power section, but also one that has more clarity and will result in tubes lasting longer. Hotter bias results in a more sensitive power section, that overdrives more easily and will result in reduced tube life. Biasing "by ear" is a good way to get a sound you like, but it's also a good way to blow up tubes, if the person doing it does not have the proper setup to check the actual percent dissipation that their idle current is set at. I know some thumb their nose at "matched" power tube sets, but they really do allow a more matched bias current level, which with current production tubes can be VERY different.
  16. 2 points
    Hello all! I'm new here and don't generally participate in forums so I hope I'm posting in the right place. I've been a fan of Heritage since 1986 when I learned about the company. In 1985 I was 25 years old, playing actively in the local/regional scene. and I started a guitar shop in Texas. At first I dealt mostly in used and vintage but also some lower end imports brands. Dealing in vintage instruments enabled me to set up at the shows around Texas. By 1989 I was aware of Heritage but hadn't yet become a dealer. While exhibiting at the Dallas show that year, a guy stopped at my booth because he noticed my dobro brand resonator and was at the show looking for one. He was toting a Heritage H-535 for trade. We struck a deal and even though I've sold countless rare vintage pieces thru the years, I held on to this guitar. It's special not only because it's such a fine instrument. It's also the documented first ever production model 535. I'll post a scan of the letter signed by Bill Paige reflecting this. Also, the dealer this was shipped to had a shop in Waco, TX. This shop was a huge dealer for Heritage at that time and honestly, seeing them at a previous show was how I became aware of them. We spoke regularly at the shows. One of those times, I mentioned that I had a first production model Heritage. He looked at me and said "you have a blonde H-535". Shocked, I asked him how he knew that and he replied "it's the only first production model I've ever let go". For years after that when I saw him at a show he would ask "are you taking good care of my guitar?". I expected to see references to him on this site but a search of his name brought nothing up. I figure a lot of members here know who I'm speaking of. Best I recall I became a dealer for Heritage by late 1989...maybe early 90. Not only did my shop sell quite a few, I ordered some amazing models for my own collection. Sadly a divorce necessitated a mass liquidation of my personal guitars. I'm talking about a Johnny Smith The Rose circa 1990 and many others. With the exception of a 550 that I custom ordered for myself (with upgraded figuring) I have no idea where any of those are today but still miss them. I do plan to approach the guy who has my old 550 and try to get it back. I closed my shop in 2015 and am now semi retired. The last 10 years of operation really sapped the "guitar player" in me. I got to the point I didn't play much outside of store demos. Finally last year I began to play more...and more. Anyway, the reason I found this forum is that I'm now working on a music project with a writer in upstate New York. The current song calls for a semi hollow tone. So for the first time since around 1996, I restrung the 535 and recorded with it a couple days back. Going to try to get the final track tonight. This guitar rings like a bell and is as much of a joy to play today as when I first brought it home around 30 years ago. This guitar is not for sale and will never be. I have a grown daughter who plays and has some nice pieces in her collection. That's where this will go one day. I'm truly humbled to be the guy who owns this guitar. I hope my new friends here enjoy the story!
  17. 2 points
  18. 2 points
    So it came in today. The pix are the same ones that were in the ad as I couldn't do a better job. I just spent a couple of hours with it. it is just a beautiful guitar. Period. It sounds beautiful, looks beautiful and plays beautifully. I could not be happier. It looks like it was rarely played. Then again, 12 strings don't get played a lot unless you are in a Byrds or Petty Tribute band. Wait a minute....i happen to be in a Petty tribute band.....As you can see by my name, I own a few Heritages. This one is on the top of my list of cool guitars. I have never owned Prospect and had no idea what to expect. Man, what great guitars they are. i may have to get a Prospect 6 string now.
  19. 1 point
    In this case it's not even a boomer.! Gen X is riding close behind, as the crotchety old coot suggested. Most of these guitars will outlast everyone here, adding our individual imprint to the guitar's history. It's almost like the instrument plays it's owners, one after another. Some of our very own guitars will likely contribute to famous, or just incredibly beautiful, sounds some day. At least for now we can get in our own licks. Play on!
  20. 1 point
    Once upon a time not too long ago I TRULY felt that the monetary value of my Heritage Guitars would stand a better chance of appreciating faster than any of my mass produced guitars. I don't feel that way anymore. Unfortunately, I think a steady wave of vintage and or high end gear is going to be making it's way to market as the vast number of boomers who are starting to check out continue to grow.
  21. 1 point
    As far as the company goes, I think you'll find they've added a good list of new dealers and enhanced world wide distribution. And it's early in the game for them according to the big plan. And as far as comments at PSP... The new Heritage folks pointed out the changes made in the plant to enhance quality control during the tour, of course. There were some old employees that voiced strong opinions about the new company at the cook out, not surprisingly. The new crew didn't spend time at the after tour get together, partly due to not wanting to create any conflict there . So those conversations with them were limited to the time at the plant.
  22. 1 point
  23. 1 point
    So Long Bill. SOoooo many Geetars.............So many laughs. I will miss our talks. Your retirement is well earned and the trout are NERVOUS!
  24. 1 point
    He once winked slyly at me and Kuz, said "c'mon. I'll show you the real tour". And off we went into the bowels of the building. The first PSP I asked him what he did at Heritage (I didn't know). He sorta grinned, said, not much. Heck of a man. The guitar building world will miss him. So will I.
  25. 1 point
    Bill is a great guy. His retirement is well deserved. Have a good time fishing, Bill.


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