buzzy Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I want another one. Here,here I think a Gold top H150LW with P90's and a wrap around would look REAL good between these two. And, by the by, they both sound stunning and weigh a little under 9.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If Gibson is the innovator of swiss cheese and relief cuts I will give them their props because it appears the concept has caught on but what about the 100+ other mods they have done that everyone hates! Gibson might have innovated the "swiss cheese" method, but the Guild Bluesbird always had what they termed "tone chambers". It probably is closer to a Mille than a 150 in design. Can't remember ever picking one up that was 9 lbs or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredZepp Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here,here I think a Gold top H150LW with P90's and a wrap around would look REAL good between these two. And, by the by, they both sound stunning and weigh a little under 9.5 Nice ones ! That is, for me, about a perfect weight for that LE.. and historically correct also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 A couple of pics from Wolfe guitars (it's on its way via FedEx): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANGAR18 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 His is the best Heritage H-150 Deluxe ever made. Feel free to argue with me if you like but I'm not changing my mind. hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 That is sick flame on that H150 Deluxe. In fact the pick guard almost looks like it is a clear lens magnifying the flame of the body underneath. Could all of you please mirror your photos? I hate backwards guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 A mistake that could only happen to lefties: It appears that Heritage installed the bridge pickup from Bill Lawrence in the neck and vice versa. I ordered a 6 henry bridge and a 2.8 henry neck from Bill Lawrence - a wider spread than normal. When I got the guitar the bridge was almost to string level and the neck was decked below the ring. The neck was louder slightly and the bridge didn't have the "oomph" I'd expect. I bought a multimeter to confirm, but considering I had to spend a $300 lefty upcharge, I am very perturbed. Even if Bill Lawrence labelled them wrong - they should have caught it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 . . . I am very perturbed. Count to 10. Remember to breathe. I commend your restraint. I may have voiced a stronger sentiment. It should be easily resolved and I wish you the best of luck with the correction. I'd still like to see a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenK Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I think this should be Wolfe's problem to make right. They sold, placed and received the order, inspected and setup the guitar for delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuominae Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think this should be Wolfe's problem to make right. They sold, placed and received the order, inspected and setup the guitar for delivery. Yes, anybody should have seen that there was something funky going on there. Maybe not at first glance, but on closer inspection for sure, and definitely on giving it a strum, which thy should have if they set it up. Sorry to hear that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywolfe Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 A mistake that could only happen to lefties: It appears that Heritage installed the bridge pickup from Bill Lawrence in the neck and vice versa. I ordered a 6 henry bridge and a 2.8 henry neck from Bill Lawrence - a wider spread than normal. When I got the guitar the bridge was almost to string level and the neck was decked below the ring. The neck was louder slightly and the bridge didn't have the "oomph" I'd expect. I bought a multimeter to confirm, but considering I had to spend a $300 lefty upcharge, I am very perturbed. Even if Bill Lawrence labelled them wrong - they should have caught it. Well, a few guys are always keen to blame us for Heritage's errors, the weather and perhaps even global warming. That's cool- we can take it, and we're not perfect. We do catch "many" Heritage errors and we also return some pieces that don't pass our inspection. In this case I accept 'some" blame, but I do have some pretty handy excuses: 1. We've never seen nor heard of the pickups- which were supplied by the customer, so when we tested them they sounded ok to our unfamiliar ears. 2. When the customer received the Guitar he told me he was VERY pleased, so he did not catch the problem initially either & he selected the pickups, and BTW this lefty H150CM Custom is a superb example of what Heritage is still capable of and is among the greatest H150's I've ever seen & I've seen & played thousands of them. 3. When he made me aware of Heritage's mistake- I immediately resolved the issue to his satisfaction. 4. he sent Heritage a wiring map-not us. When working with something unfamiliar, a simple mistake in possible, so I'm not calling for Ren's head here. So, go ahead & blame whomever you want, but the facts are still the facts, and I am very, very proud of Wolfe Guitar's excellent reputation. Is Heritage still making fine Guitars? In my opinion they truly are. I have received 4 custom H150/157's in the last few days and they are all amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarsouthbend Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 +1 response, Jay. I've been around heritage guitars a long time. I believe they are still the best American guitar company around. They may make mistakes, mess up a repair job, or take centuries to do a repair, and so on...but don't we all know that is part of the fun in dealing with people, running a small hands on shop, making amazing guitars? I will continue to support this company, hands down, whenever I can...when they make an amazing guitar or when they mess up. These guys deserve our support. Problems can always be fixed. I imagine folks walking in and out of 225 Parsons had problems back in the 50s as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 Jay, thanks for chiming in and providing your side of the transaction. Hopefully all has turned out well for everyone concerned. The reason I began this thread was to affirm my observations...assumptions that Heritage Guitars are indeed putting out their best products ever. They seem to have hit their stride so to speak, and currently build some absolutely fabulous instruments. And yes, once in a while, something leaves Parsons Street less than perfect or with some flaw that one would think should have been caught at the factory. But all in all, I think they do a wonderful job as a niche American guitar builder, willing to do custom versions of their legacy template designs. More power to them! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredZepp Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Yeah... lots of great examples of Heritage craftsmanship coming from Kalamazoo these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I don't own it - Jay does; but I like the plain top OSB look. Maybe "best" should be measured with eyes closed & plugged in to a cookin' amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenK Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Jay, you should be proud of Wolfe Guitars. You and your staff set the bar. You are the best of the best! I knew the dealer would resolve the customers issue. Thanks for all you continue to do to promote and sell Heritage guitars. Peace, Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It does seem a bit easier to be more vocal about complaints on-line versus in person at times. But this is one of those rare forums that has many of its members actually interact with each other face to face. Its not so easy to toss anyone under the proverbial bus here because there are face to face consequences for many of us. I know I'm very guilty of such behavior myself, particularly when I see a product made by Gibson and vocal my own displeasure of it and then get flamed by the loyalists they have. Thankfully, I don't see those people, ever. I read into both the AnthonyEMan7's post having some animosity to it and perhaps a little bitterness and then read Jay's response of being defensive and trying hard not be angry in his response. While this could of been an issue that was resolved outside this forum, it was not. It seems the quality issue in the matter has nothing to do with the hardware, materials, or build quality of the guitar itself. Just a nickel's worth of solder and a fresh pack of strings to correct the issue. Its not loose frets, poor binding, warped neck, blemished paint, or some other aliment the can really hurt a company's reputation as we have seen on another larger mass production company's products. I don't think back-wards pickups are a major deal here. If what Jay said is true, the wiring diagram sent to Heritage may have been confusing and they made a simple error of judgment that any of us would have made. I know I won't be throwing any stones because I know for every stone I have thrown on this forum, several were tossed back at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wolfe gave me an option of having heritage fix it or getting a price from a local shop for him to consider. Found a great guy who did it for $20. I blame heritage more. I sent them the pick ups with the correct wire color code - turns out they wired them wrong and one coil was shorted out. They must have lost it and used the Bill Lawrence USA off of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANGAR18 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wolfe gave me an option of having heritage fix it or getting a price from a local shop for him to consider. Found a great guy who did it for $20. I blame heritage more. I sent them the pick ups with the correct wire color code - turns out they wired them wrong and one coil was shorted out. They must have lost it and used the Bill Lawrence USA off of the net. So, can we all agree that if someone asks Heritage to do something outside of their normal routine, that it is a risky gamble as to whether it turns out the way you wanted it to turn out or not? I bought a 2014 H-535 (as I may have already mentioned, I don't remember) and I am as happy with it as a bluejay on a junebug. I don't think there is anything Heritage can do to improve upon that model asside from fancy cosmetic embelishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredZepp Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 So, can we all agree that if someone asks Heritage to do something outside of their normal routine, that it is a risky gamble as to whether it turns out the way you wanted it to turn out or not? Any guitar maker can make a mistake and they all have..... Heritage does a lot of custom work that goes off flawlessly. This one was really easy to fix. It's a shame that it happened but it's not a major ordeal to resolve. If I liked the resulting instrument , it wouldn't affect my appreciation for the end result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I didn't expect Jay Wolfe having to defend himself. I'm not afraid of confrontation but Jay is so nice and reasonable, I forget I was calling to complain. If you read my posts - I lay the blame far more at Heritage's feet than Wolfe guitars. I got the guitar Tuesday 16 Jun 2015 - I didn't discover the problem until 27 Jun 2015, the first chance I had to play the guitar at full volume. The reason Wolfe didn't and I didn't discover it - we didn't think they would wire the pick ups wrong on a such an expensive guitar. I sent them the wiring color code and just never imagined it could be wrong. When I got it that Tuesday I was checking for broken switches, etc. during shipping. And remember, whatever you paid for your Heritage, I would have paid $300 MORE - just for being born left-handed. My '$#it happens' breaking point is a little lower than the typical buyer. The real reason I'm angry is because Heritage is like Bill Lawrence. It's the kind of company you want to root for. I sold I couple of friends on that Saturday that Heritage was closer to the sunburst 58 - 61 than the other company. Then the super beautiful guitar didn't quite deliver '''''''''''''''''''' The guitar is lighter than half my Carvins - whixh is ridiculous for a n H150/Les Paul Standard. The cherry burst finish cannot be captured in a picture. Whoever painted this could work anywhere. It is the most subtle beautiful transition from red to yellow over classic AAA maple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuominae Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I cannot speak for the Masters but I feel it is extremely apparent to me that they are traditionalists and they believe in building guitars like they did in the 50s, 60s and 70s. I would never expect and modern built guitar from Heritage, I expect an old school hand built guitar and they never let me down. I suspect many others here, just like me will select the lighter guitar when seeing advertised weights. In my experiences I have played a lot of guitars and you can hear a difference acoustically and electric on weight relieved guitars but does that REALLY matter? Those heavyweights however do offer something special tonally. For those with specific wants, Heritage offers Custom build specs to meet anybody's needs AT A STEAL! I always thought that the difference in weight between Heritage and Gibson was mostly due to the thickness of the slabs used (when weight relief isn't used). I've got the pups out of one of my 157s now and the maple cap is insanely thick on it. For comparison, the 79 and 78 Gibbies I had a while back are just as heavy, but less well balanced. All but one H150 I had were really well balanced, whereas a lot of heavy Les Pauls I find tend to tip towards the body, even though the headstock is heavier than on a Heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The nut was cut low. After one string change the high e-string is unplayable. I'll call Jay when he opens up. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressure Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I have had 2 Heritage Guitars made that are way, way out of their comfort zone and both exceeded my expectations. I have another guitar being built that I will see at PSP this year and I am sure it will also be Fab. Rember these are handmade Guitars and things can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyEMan7 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hey, I will be drop filling epoxy on a nut slot of a $2,200 guitar. Where I supplied the pick ups. Awesome. The nut is PLASTIC. My Carvins and my Charvel had no issues. This is the second repair in 5 weeks. Maybe the fretboard will delaminate right after the 1 year warranty period. Awesome. I'm so happy. Beating Gibson in QC is not a high enough standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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