bolero Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 PAIN IN THE ARSE man, I am rethinking my 4x12 useage...getting it in/out of the house, cramming all my other gear in the car with that behemoth, etc it sure sounds & looks great, but dammit: my 1x12 combo is just as good sounding, and HELLA easier to move around ( and to think: I was considering using a full stack!! loonie ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 LOONY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_hall Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 But worth it in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bob Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Think about the tremendous body your going to get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressure Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I used to pack two 3 15" Kustom speaker columns, a Kustom 200 head and a guitar, up and down 3 flights of stairs when I was younger. Now I just move a Victoria Ivy League and a guitar. Older and wiser? Or just too weak to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressure Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Hope I didn't give the wrong impression about my feelings towards heavy high powered amps, they're Fab. Before I bought the Kustom 200 I was playing the Les Paul SG through a black face Fender bassman, a sickly little thing that could be drowned out by the drummer hitting his high hat too hard. Loud amps and loud bands were the way to go in the 60s! Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I have substituted a 4x12 for a 2x12 vertical slant cabinet... this particular model is loaded with Celestion Vintage 30's. You can take the Jet City logo off and install a Marshall if you are concerned about the manufacture... But a Soldano designed amp/cab company isn't too shabby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK155 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 DB, I advise you not to try that cab with your Quilter. If you do, you'll never unplug it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I like the sound of 112 combos more than the sound of a 412 cab. One set up I really liked was a 112 combo and 212 cab. I stuck with that for a while. Punch from the 212 closed cab and the open sound of a 112 combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 4x12's are great toys and are cool for large venues. Not in my hierarchy of needs. I'm so glad I can get by with a 5F1 or 5E3 for most sessions. I've had good gigs with my Cube 60 and Champ II as well. A Silverface DR or Boogie combo suffice for the rest. "Down-watting" is a beautiful thing. And my back loves me for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I remember schlepping, along with drums and guitars and luggage, an SVT and a JBL loaded Twin all over hell's half-acre, back in the day. My back reminds me nearly every day what a really bad idea that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 .... but those 4 x 12s just sound so GLORIOUS when they are cranking!!! And you must remember the saying, No pain, No gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 .... but those 4 x 12s just sound so GLORIOUS when they are cranking!!! And you must remember the saying, No pain, No gain. Saying what, again? I couldn't hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Saying what, again? I couldn't hear. That is what happened to me the last time I cranked it to 11.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 hahaha.... well the problem is, I am playing the JTM45 + 4x12 clean and only using pedals for dirt, in the places we will be playing kind of defeats the purpose who the hell can crank a 30-50w amp up anywhere, these days?? The Vibro Pig may prevail, in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNumero Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I have a 4x10 Hartke bass cab, and I swear, it is too heavy for me (and I lift weights at the gym, 5 lb dumbells mind you). The other bass cab I have is a 1x15 and it weighs 1/4 of what the 4x10 does. So the 4x10 sits in the garage until I can find a young roadie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNumero Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 .... but those 4 x 12s just sound so GLORIOUS when they are cranking!!! And you must remember the saying, No pain, No gain. Rich, your hearing left you long ago you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212Mavguy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Sell the 4/12, get a lightweight 2/12...Seismc "Luke" 2/12 oval cutout back with Tone Tubby Nashvilles...pair of 8 ohms in series for 16 ohms, perfect for JTM45...winner winner chicken dinner. Cab is not very expensive, the speakers are, but they will do that JTM very, very proud. Have seen that cab on ebay for as little as 150-ish with free shipping, BIN often at 180...roomy, lightweight cab will get serious Bluesbreaker tones with those particular speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I have a 4x10 Hartke bass cab, and I swear, it is too heavy for me (and I lift weights at the gym, 5 lb dumbells mind you). The other bass cab I have is a 1x15 and it weighs 1/4 of what the 4x10 does. So the 4x10 sits in the garage until I can find a young roadie. Will, have you seen the Schroeder bass cabs? Ed has two older models, loaded with 10's, I think. They sound great, and weigh like 18lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNumero Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Will, have you seen the Schroeder bass cabs? Ed has two older models, loaded with 10's, I think. They sound great, and weigh like 18lbs. I have not Rob, I will check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikenov Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 My Hughes and Kettner Tube 20 has a redbox DI built into the back. stage volume is fine, and that suckers sounds absolutely huge in the audience.no 4x12 in this universe can compete with a full sound system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxdx99 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ha. You're almost to the corner of 'one trip in/out' and '1x12 combo can't weigh more that 50 lbs'. Yeh... couple more years and you'll get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Time to start a "Down-watters Anonymous" club for old geezers. "5F1, one knob and the truth." Nothing heavier than a Deluxe Reverb will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Time to lift more weights! Seriously though, I am amazed places even let you bring a 4x12 in the door. They drive the sound guys crazy, and blow out everyone's ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 PITA - Really!? I like many of the benefits of a 4x12... Especially the quick rolling off the stages etc. (easy in and outs, fast setups and stage clearing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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