gpuma Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I never top wrapped my strings but I thought I just experimented a bit since I had to restring all of my axes anyway. H357: no problem H535: no problem H150: the D string buzzed a lot. I tried to adjust the string heights with some improvement but the buzz is still there. It doesn't make any sense to me. The height of the saddles does not change so why would I have to change the height of the string if I top wrap? Any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 buzz, a topic that I can't resist. I've always thought that, ceteris paribus, top wrapping would only change compliance - decreasing the friction on the saddle and increasing the string length. So, at pitch, tension is the same and I would assume that the travel of the transverse vibration doesn't increase. But, then again, I'm well into my 2nd Colorado Bulldog and am feeling pretty good since I'm not a big drinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrocks Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Sounds like a truss rod adjustment on the 150. Or you accidentally lowered your bridge during the string change, which is easy to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferwave Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I top wrap and haven't experienced anything similar, so I agree with Brent, check your neck relief and make a truss rod adjustment as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 You are decreasing the angle from the saddle to the tail piece, so that means less tension. If the saddle is loose or the saddle was filed (correctly) for normal stringing, I could see how buzzing could occur at the saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum13 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Did you change the strings one at a time or removed them all, treated the fingerboard, polish the frets? Did the bridge or saddle move and are you sure the d string is not defective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpuma Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 The h150 is the only guitar where I removed a the strings because it needed a fretboard clean up. I am inclined to think that the neck must have moved slightly because of that. Probably I need to adjust the truss rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmike Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 It's not about tension, it's about compression on the bridge,the more the downward string angle after the bridge,the more compression on the saddles and bridge frame,the less the angle,the less downward compression.. more compression means more sound transmission into the guitar top, I top wrap my old 335 because if I dont,the strings bite the back of the frame behind the saddles,and I want my tail piece mounting screws buried deep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmike Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The buzzing might be the screws in the tunomatic,or the saddles not seated well,more compression can make that go away. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 as above also if the neck angle is not steep enough, you can't get enough string tension on the saddles. since there is not enough height difference/break angle down to the stoptail some guitars will top wrap well, some won't a shallow neck angle means there is less drop from the bridge to the tailpiece if you crank the tailpiece down as far as it will go, it may help otherwise just run strings thru normally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 ps at least some those lyre tailpiece SG's suffer the same symptoms....I tried a $5k reissue and the strings buzzed like crazy because of that stupid thing unfortunately because it didn't have a stoptail, you were stuck with it as-is. and there was no way to lower the lyre tailpiece crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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