Leduke Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hello. What can be the reason about this king of missing lacquer on the neck/body junction ? Is the neck have been reglued ? Have you ever seen something like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stringman Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yes, I had a Guild Bluesbird do that and it had to be sent back to the factory. This has been a long time ago, but they told me the neck separated and cracked the finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hello. Thanks for reply. What do you meam by neck separated ? He has moved ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stringman Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yes, mine had moved and had to be reset. I do not know if this applies to yours. Need to get a luthier to look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 OK. Anyway it's not a normal finish wear ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 That is not normal, it appears the neck has started to separate from the body. I would set the neck may need to be reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsmoke Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 DEFINITELY not normal. That's a failed heel joint. LeDuke, I hate to be gloomy, but if this is the black 157 from that other thread, I suggest you walk away. In those photos the guitar has no strings. Now that we see the separation at the heel joint, that makes perfect sense. The string tension is no doubt adding to the separation, the owner knows this and is eliminating the tension, and hoping to dump the guitar. This could be repaired and you could end up with a great instrument, but why isn't the current owner doing it? Probably costly and he just doesn't want to be bothered. Unless you are getting this very cheap (500.00?), and have a luthier you trust on tap for the repair - a reset AND refinish - ($500.00?), I'd walk away. my $.02 This would be a good buy for someone like Brent, with a Pete Moreno up the road. That's the scenario which would make the cost/trouble worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Thanks a lot ! Kidsmoke, it's the same guitar, it is cheaper than other, in France the price is not the same, this one is at $1987, wich is the half of a brand new, and about the price of a used h150. I called the actual owner, I get a good feeling with him, I trust him, I don't think he is a hoodlum, but if he don't know what happened, I will not take this guitar. For the same price I tryed a brand new Maybach Lester Black Velvet (no ebony fingerboard) next to my place. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Leduke: I've worked in a repair shop, and I know kidsmoke and DetroitBlues. They are absolutely correct on all points! That is not a lacquer issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 OK ! Thank you all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAndDestroy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 the problem could actually be the lacquer. ive seen many new heritage guitars where the lacquer kind of bubbled up where the heel meets the body. they call it bridging. you should be able to tell if the lacquer has flaked off or if the neck has moved. is there any space between the neck heel and the body? are the seams where the neck meets the rim cracked? if not, i say the neck joint is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Whether it's a structural or just a finish issue, that's not something that can be determined from pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 10 hours ago, ShredAndDestroy said: the problem could actually be the lacquer. ive seen many new heritage guitars where the lacquer kind of bubbled up where the heel meets the body. they call it bridging. you should be able to tell if the lacquer has flaked off or if the neck has moved. is there any space between the neck heel and the body? are the seams where the neck meets the rim cracked? if not, i say the neck joint is fine. It's from 1997, is there any lacquer issues since 1997 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Bubbling/Bridging lacquer is not unheard of, even small chips of lacquer missing in the bubbling area is not super rare. But I have never seen the entire neck with exposed wood like that. "Run, Forest, run" from that listing. Sure looks like the neck moved to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum13 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The lack of strings is a tell tail. Easier to sell a guitar the buyer can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leduke Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I asked the seller, there is no strings since only two days, i might be not the reason of the neck/body junction problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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