alanjohnlew Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 My wife's 65th birthday present to me was this 1999 H-170cm. As you can see it has 2 volume and 2 tone controls and the neck has H-355 style markers. The hang tag say it's a H-170cmsm, although the label on the back of the control panel says H-170cm. So, what does the SM stand for? The guitar is a real beauty, plays wonderfully and certainly doesn't look 19 years old. Serial no. P10305. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2kc Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Based on what I am seeing SM means - Simply Magical. That is a beautiful custom ordered H-170 with ebony and great inlays. I am going to show this to my wife. Happy 65! y2kc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNumero Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, alanjohnlew said: My wife's 65th birthday present to me was this 1999 H-170cm. As you can see it has 2 volume and 2 tone controls and the neck has H-355 style markers. The hang tag say it's a H-170cmsm, although the label on the back of the control panel says H-170cm. So, what does the SM stand for? The guitar is a real beauty, plays wonderfully and certainly doesn't look 19 years old. Serial no. P10305. Congratulations! That is really pretty, a nice specimen. I just wish my wife would by me presents on her birthday like your wife did for you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjohnlew Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Thanks. Here's another shot that shows the wood grain better. Far less flare. My 65th from my wife LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesultra Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Not sure, but it could possibly stand for “Spalted Maple”, as there is some spalting going on there. That would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinking Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I hope my wife gives me one of these on her 65th birthday. Both she and the guitar are keepers. 7 hours ago, ElNumero said: My wife's 65th birthday present to me I hope my wife gives me one of these on her 65th birthday. Both she and the guitar are keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_hall Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Is the back a single block of Mahogany? I am seeing the 4th knob here which is not on my custom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 SM = Stag Mag duncans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 What does SM mean? The first thing that came to mind was the old Citroen SM...which many referred to as 'Super Machine'. Much sexier than 'Stag Mag'. Happy 65th Birthday!! That's a gorgeous H170. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoldfriend Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Sure is a looker! Any of those controls push/pull for coil splitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjohnlew Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 23 hours ago, mars_hall said: Is the back a single block of Mahogany? I am seeing the 4th knob here which is not on my custom. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjohnlew Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 18 hours ago, myoldfriend said: Sure is a looker! Any of those controls push/pull for coil splitting? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_hall Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I would tend to go with Guy, Stag Mag, but I have never seen Heritage append letters to a model name for anything other than the wood. Doesn't mean I'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywolfe Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Yes- SM is for Stag Mag. I remember having this beauty made, and I CONGRATULATE you on acquiring her. It's a one-off custom. Heritage teamed with Seymour Duncan to promote his new (at the time) Stag Mag pickups in their H170CM model - which were versatile pickups & sounded really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjohnlew Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, jaywolfe said: Yes- SM is for Stag Mag. I remember having this beauty made, and I CONGRATULATE you on acquiring her. It's a one-off custom. Heritage teamed with Seymour Duncan to promote his new (at the time) Stag Mag pickups in their H170CM model - which were versatile pickups & sounded really good. Thanks Jay. I'm in the UK. It appeared on ebay for an opening bid of £1249. No one bid. The seller was a dealer in vintage and upmarket acoustics, I presume this was a part exchange. I bought it through his website for the said £1249. It really is almost like new. Anything else you can tell me about it's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 3:35 AM, alanjohnlew said: I own a 150 with the same knob configuration in a VIP2 system, kinda cool having the toggle a simple flip away from the pinky. I also own a sister 170CMSM... You are welcome to reach out to me is you have any questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjohnlew Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Millennium Maestro said: I own a 150 with the same knob configuration in a VIP2 system, kinda cool having the toggle a simple flip away from the pinky. I also own a sister 170CMSM... You are welcome to reach out to me is you have any questions. Any photos of your's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 While the H170 is not my cup of tea, that one is particularly beautiful. Congrats on the purchase, that one is a stunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 8 hours ago, alanjohnlew said: Any photos of your's? Here you go. Enjoy yours they are cool guitars. https://reverb.com/item/8371220-the-heritage-h-170cm-ssb-sunset-burst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Is that GT pic distorted or are those some sort of new flying saucer control knobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericmusic Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 hours ago, DetroitBlues said: Is that GT pic distorted or are those some sort of new flying saucer control knobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 8 hours ago, DetroitBlues said: Is that GT pic distorted or are those some sort of new flying saucer control knobs? Say What! You calling me a knob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianluca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Congrats, great looking H170, if I'm not wrong opening the back cover that let access controls you should be able to read the internal label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 20 hours ago, Millennium Maestro said: Say What! You calling me a knob? I’m sure you’ve been called worse, I know I have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 9:19 PM, Millennium Maestro said: Say What! You calling me a knob? I bet that's the first time you've been looking for the sunshine, in a non-porcelain bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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