fuzzylogic8250 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Can someone please tell me tell most appropriate replacement 3 way toggle switch to fit into a 140 2nd edition? The year is around 2009. Do I use the long or sort shaft and what is the difference regarding the length? Is it just a matter of what fits the cavity? Tanks, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Hmm, did you look at it yet? Easy way to tell is pull the back cover off and measure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylogic8250 Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 Thank you. I have looked at it but not measured it. It's more of the vintage style I guess without the horizontal bar at the end where the wires connect. I have to order the part and I do not want to order the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Flying Bird Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 A cheap caliper can help a lot around home and also working on guitars. You can get them for as low as $20.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 This is what Heritage used in that guitar for visual reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylogic8250 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Thanks. That is pretty much identical to the switch I am going to change (see below). Any suggestions for a rugged replacement switch? The current switch will not toggle between the positions correctly. At first it would have trouble finding the bridge pickup and now it's really unpredictable. I guess I am hard on the switch when playing. It's the original switch and has held up for 13 years. I'm for sure keeping the plastic tip as it has the Heritage dot that if I remember correctly signifies the HRW pickups. I love this guitar. Anyway, the hole is 1/4" and this shaft extends about 4/36" from the carved top. You can see the pair if inside/outside washers and the knurled cap/top piece I have to work with. Heritage went very basic on this instrument as there is no deep fitting nut or plastic treble/bass plastic. What is a good robust replacement? Just switchcraft or whatever is at tone pros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 just swap for the same, wiring will be identical... Switchcraft is nice but hot terminal is on the other side of the toggle, which may trick you up especially if the wires are not long enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylogic8250 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Sounds like a plan but what is the brand of switch that is in there now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Maestro Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Unsure of the Brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I checked the old switch that I pulled when I did a new harness, and it was just a generic 3 way switch. There's no manufacturer identification. The threaded area was 11/32" deep. It's a short one like yours. I replaced mine with one from M.Laval, they appear to have exited the market. Philadelphia Luthier supply has a short Switchcraft for $30, or a Japanese made for $10. The Switchcraft specifies 11/32 threaded area. The Japanese specs "almost 3/8" which would be 12/32. I can't say that one is better than the other. There's not a lot that can go bad with these switches, other than getting a bit of dirty or oxidized, unless you start trying to bend the leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzylogic8250 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Thanks for the info. That was very helpful. After you mentioned the leaves I got to looking at the part and I squeezed them together a a bit and the switch started working again ...for the time being. I can at least play the guitar while I order the new switch if necessary. There are many switches that look just like this one on Amazon for 10 dollars and the name brands go for around 30 bucks. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Flying Bird Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Sorry if I missed it but have you tried spraying the switch with contact cleaner? That has worked for my friends and I many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNumero Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 7:33 PM, TalismanRich said: I checked the old switch that I pulled when I did a new harness, and it was just a generic 3 way switch. There's no manufacturer identification. The threaded area was 11/32" deep. It's a short one like yours. I replaced mine with one from M.Laval, they appear to have exited the market. Philadelphia Luthier supply has a short Switchcraft for $30, or a Japanese made for $10. The Switchcraft specifies 11/32 threaded area. The Japanese specs "almost 3/8" which would be 12/32. I can't say that one is better than the other. There's not a lot that can go bad with these switches, other than getting a bit of dirty or oxidized, unless you start trying to bend the leaves. Harness? For your Kentucky thorobread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 9:29 AM, ElNumero said: Harness? For your Kentucky thorobread? Yeah, she is a thoroughbred.... and she like her harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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