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Erob

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  1. First THANKS to everyone on your input concerning which Heritage to buy....either a Pre-Corp / Golden Era or Post Corp. When I began that post I realized opinions would vary and to no surprise they did. Each was valid in their own respect, it's not so much a "who is right or wrong" but more of what is important on an individual basis. For me I very much was drawn to the sentimentality of buying a Heritage Guitar that was made by the hands of the people who created Heritage Guitar. And I'm glad I made the decision I did, I chose to go with a Golden Era Heritage. I have no doubt the new Heritage Guitars are top flight, I would love to play one just to see how it feels and sounds, but I must say I am very happy with mine. The tone is fantastic, Seymour Duncan 59's, solid body, thick maple cap, just right neck and on and on. Another thing I thought was great is the info on the sticker inside the cavity. It was made in 2005 by Marvin and Jimmy, their signatures are somewhat difficult to read but I think that is correct. They both signed their full name with ink pen. The guitar was originally sold through Wolfe Guitars which I've read was very particular about the Heritage Guitars they wanted to sell. The serial number on the sticker matches the guitar head stock. And speaking of the head stock, I understand many people don't like it's shape and when I was looking at pictures of the head stock I must confess I was concerned. However, when I finally received the guitar I was amazed at how small the head stock is. In photographs it looks huge but in reality it's not. I actually like the way it looks. Go figure. I am certain I will hold onto this one until I can't play any longer. The top is very unique, I've never seen another like it. It's definitely a keeper.
  2. Very nice guitars. The H150 is beautiful, the story makes it all the more special. Congrats!!
  3. Like you I prefer one before new ownership. I'm just curious though if a Heritage guitar built in 2016 - 2017 would still be considered to fall into the category of the "Golden era" guitars. Still made by the original Heritage employees, still made the same "by hand" before the updated machinery. I understand they continue to be made mostly the same as way as before but then again not. There is that "gray" area if you will. Splitting hairs? Probably..... but still an interesting thought.
  4. Thanks to everyone for the input, after reading all of the info I do believe buying a Pre Corp is the way to go...... at least for me. With that said there is one more consideration I would appreciate some thoughts on. Heritage Guitar was purchased in 2016 - 2017, if I'm not mistaken modernization to the way their guitars were made did not occur until 2018 when many of the "old guard" employees were let go. So even though in 2016 - 2017 Heritage Guitar was under new ownership they were still being made in the same manner as before. Correct? With this said wouldn't buying a 2016 - 2017 Heritage be the same as buying a "Golden Era" Heritage? Is a 2016 - 2017 Heritage a "Golden Era" Heritage Guitar? Gives an interesting twist to the story if one is bought during these years.
  5. Perhaps something to consider when discussing higher-end Heritage or Gibson reissue Les Paul's. The percentage of people currently playing an electric guitar in the age group of 20- 35 is going to have a difficult time coming up with $8,000 disposable cash to purchase one. Even $3000 for that matter. I think if someone took a poll of who is purchasing these guitars would find they are 40 years old and up. Also, a good percentage of the youth today does not see the value in purchasing a higher-end guitar, basically all they are looking for is portability, reasonable tone and not so much the Mystique of where it all began. Time plus distance equals disassociation. If anything the value of these types of guitars may very well decline as time goes by. Especially the reissues. Today's generation values work / personal time balance, they tow around a small house on the back of their hybrid vehicle for goodness sake. Much less by a high-end custom guitar. Lastly, there are so many guitars out there. I can't help but think the majority in that age group has little interest in owning a reissue. First they can't afford it and second there are so many other means of getting the tone a person is after nowadays without buying that type of guitar it reduces the need significantly to buy one. Just a few thoughts. Oh yeah.... Heritage Golden era or Corp era?
  6. Considering everything equal is it fair to say if I could find a Golden Era H150 with upgraded pickups and no fret / nut / etc issues, this is the BETTER than a Corp Heritage? Best of both worlds. Reason I'm asking is I found a 2000 H150 that fits this description BUT it has a small amount of finish chipping on the back of the head stock point. The person that owns it played it on stage. Me being me, it's not terrible but is very irritating. Possibly could repair the damage making it tolerably for my particular self.
  7. "Golden Era" as POLO has named it certainly has guitars with function issues but I would imagine those are the exception and not the rule. PRESSURE named the "new" years "Plaza Era" and as expected with the influx of new machinery finishing the guitars, instead of hands, it is not unreasonable the finished guitar is more consistent and less flawed. What an interesting conversation.
  8. Thank you for that info Fred and Pressure, I was not aware of the H150's still being made by hand.
  9. Thanks for the welcome guys. I wish so much there were a local guitar store with several of these hanging on the wall but not to be. I am in the eastern most tip of Tennessee; Kingsport / Bristol. Needless to say if it doesn't have Martin on the headstock or a round white drum head with 5 tightly wound strings you will most likely not find many stores with quality electric guitars - new or used. So that leaves me with the only one option for buying a Heritage, buying one off of the internet without playing it first. Being 56 years old, in years passed I had the pleasure of going into a local store, sitting down and being able to compare three or four identical guitars but as many of you already know unless you live in a huge city brick and mortar stores are a thing of the past. It's not like I've just started looking for one of these, but my search has gotten more serious and right now I have found two that I like a lot. One is a 2007 listed on Guitar Center, it's an almond burst and the tax, tags, title and delivery to my door would be around $1,625. More than what I was wanting to pay but..... The other is one I found on Craigslist from a private seller, it's a honey colored 2000 H150 and he has owned it for years. That is going to be around $1450 to my door BUT the tip of the headstock on the back has some chipping, he used it onstage with his band. Me, I've been playing for 35+ yrs for my pleasure and I'm one of those that values condition plus functionality. Anyway, we will see where this takes me. Thanks for the replies and input so far.
  10. Hi All, I believe this to be my first posting here on the form, before doing so I searched trying to find if this topic had already been discussed but I could not find anything. My apologies if this has already been bantered around. So I am looking for my first Heritage H150 and am open to any and all feedback on whether to buy a pre corporate H150 or newer post corporate guitar. In my mind I think it could be said the newer ones are more "cookie cutter" since much of the work is being done with a CNC machine, Plek, etc. Now the term "cookie cutter" can seem negative so I want to clarify that I understand the positives of the end result as well, the guitars are more accurate and consistent in build versus a handmade model by a luthier. I also realize what a person wants will go both ways. One person may find the uniqueness of each guitar more desirable since each was built by an individual luthier, another person would find consistency to be the desired result. Since Heritage Guitar is now owned by a parent corporate company, can it be argued they are basically now on the same level of Gibson but at a much smaller scale. The factory being more machine with less people. Appealing... yes? No? Many people find greater value in something that is "hand made" whereas others find greater value in something made using tools to provide the best precision possible. Years from now when my feeble hands will not be able to play the guitar; which era would be the more desirable? Pre Corp or post Corp? I could go on and on and yes perhaps the bottom line is "who cares" find one I like and enjoy it. I can say this, from a corporate/ marketing viewpoint the decision to control inventory is smart. Capitalism is all about supply and demand. Limiting the supply increases demand equaling better perceived value. My brain hurts.
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