davesultra
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(IMO) I don’t really believe that any years of the “Pre-Plaza” era H-150s’ were any better or worse. You really have to take them on a case by case basis.
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3 minutes ago, davesultra said:
I agree with Rich, but damn it still makes me miss the old days!
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13 hours ago, TalismanRich said:
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H-357 is pretty labor intensive (IIRC). If they made them, I’m sure they’d cost a pretty penny. I wouldn’t mind the return of the H-157 though.
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35 minutes ago, Millennium Maestro said:
Duncan makes better pickups in my opinion. the JB is an A5 wound to 16.4K... Not a design from the Gibson line available similar. Enjoy your oxblood!
The 498T has an A5 magnet and is wound around the 14.5k range.
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Not much of a pedal user myself, but I have tried and liked some of his dirt-pedals. Can’t comment on any of his personal dealings/opinions.
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My “E” serial H-140. (Needs a fret dressing).
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50 minutes ago, Genericmusic said:
Pete Marino (RIP) told me the factory filled up the back of his pickup truck with them and asked him to deliver them to the dump. From what I understand less them 1/2 made it to the dump.
Wow, talk about a great disturbance in the force!!!
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3 hours ago, TalismanRich said:
Dave, I heard that was very true in the early days. They used 2, 3, 4 and 5, but by 58, I think they had pretty much settled on #2 or #5, but as you said, whichever was available. That's how the white vs black bobbin deal came into being. But that is what I (and apparently others) find so strange of how they are being touted. "Using a combination of 3D scanning, scientific analysis, reverse engineering of original examples from the late 1950s, and specifications from the Gibson archives, the Gibson Pickup Shop has developed the most accurate recreations of these acclaimed pickups ever made, right down to the tool marks on the baseplates. " How much analysis and reverse engineering does it take to wind some wire on a bobbin (which, by the way, didn't have a counter on it) until it's almost full, and to stamp out some nickel silver baseplates and screw the things together.
They certainly weren't "boutique" builds, hand wound and assembled by magical elves in the dark recesses of Parsons Street.
It would be different if they were made like some of the slot car motors we had years ago. They might be hand wound with 38 turns of #27 gauge wire, precisely laid side by side on each pole for one class, then carefully polished and balanced. But nobody is going to precisely win 5000 turns of #42 wire on a bobbin by hand.
Yup, I find it odd to think of someone attempting to make exact science of an “un-exact” process.
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56 minutes ago, TalismanRich said:
Am I wrong in that the magnets used in PAFs by 59 were usually Alnico 2 or some #5s? I wonder why they used Alnico 4 for these authentic 59 recreations?
My understanding was that there were no absolutes regarding what type of magnets were used. Gibson was notoriously cheap and went with whatever magnets were the best deal from their supplier.
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15 hours ago, deytookerjaabs said:
I got a message back from a dealer basically echoing that they're all "chunky with some shoulder." Might be better off just going to a standard. My last 150 was an '02 I think, low bridge height and a nice soft V neck, great guitar. Back to the thrill of the hunt!
Measured mine last night. .91” at the 1st & 1.00” at the 12th. Yeah, they’re chunky.
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I’ve had 2, but currently have only one. The plaintop had what appeared to be a slightly slimmer neck than my Goldtop does. Not terribly different, but noticeable. The GT is definitely closer to an R6/7/8 neck. I’m not home at the time of typing this, so I can’t measure the thickness. As far as the bridges & tailpeces are concerned, the PT sat a little lower than the GT. But as is typical for Heritage, in order to crank the stoptail down, I would have to topwrap. I don’t care for topwrapping so I left it where it is.
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They’re made in house. I thought it would have been cool if they had ThroBak make them, but it would have pushed the price up a fair amount.
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That sure is a looker!
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I have both Gibson & Heritage guitars that do the very same thing. My Custom Core H-150 is the worst offender. I don’t notice it as much with my H-535 though. Static electricity, especially during the dry winter season does intensify the condition. Also the wiring in your playing area can contribute to it as well. My music room has fluorescent lighting, so that definitely contributes in my case.
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I also agree that the pickups are the weak link in these guitars.
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I too don’t necessarily subscribe to the notion that lighter guitars sound “better”. But I can say that my neck & shoulder appreciate the fact that mine is 8.6 lbs. I have seen a few of the more recent ones weigh in at a little over 9lbs.
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I really can’t say with any certainty that my CC sounds better than any of the Standard models I’ve owned over the years. I happen to be (talent wise) on the very low-end of the spectrum of players. I can say that I do really like the feel of the neck shape, and the finish. While mine is not an Artisan Aged model, the standard CC finish is very Gibson VOS-esque. Plus the hue of the Goldtop is much closer to the old Gibson style.
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Wow, that’s one sad looking shipping box!
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It almost looks as if it’s a Doctors writing. Anyone know of a Doctor around here that is a Heritage aficionado?
Moonlighting perhaps? 🤔
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Using the provided photos, I see no reason to believe that your guitar is fake. The numerals and label certainly appear to be legitimate.
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Pre-2016 you could get almost anything you wanted. And you likely could have had it at a reasonable cost. These days I’m not sure how that would go. Aren’t they supposed to have a “Bespoke program”?
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Case key
in Heritage Guitars
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FWIW- I believe that those cases require the basic stamped key. Often those keys are universal. If you have any lying around that look similar to these, you may be in luck.