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    Does the H150 sound different than a G brand LP?

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    4 hours ago, High Flying Bird said:

    I had a '99 H-150 that must have been between 11 to 12 pounds.  It sustained for days.  I liken it to a piano.  Great tone!  I sold it because it was so heavy -even in my late twenties.  I have only heard one guitar like that and it was a friend's father's '59. 

    Yeah, nice suite...  I found several suits in the dumpster out side of my apartment.  I brought the jackets in to give to a young kid living near me.  A buddy said to put on the jacket and glasses and do a Stephen Stills thing and he took a photo.  The kid loved the jackets.  I didn't tell him they probably belonged to a dead man. 

    black-150.jpg

    Nice picture !! The kids must have rocking hard on that 12LBS LP !!! In my personal point of view i am thinking heavier LP will sound better? Am still unsure and am sure many debate will arise on weight issue..... maybe am more of a old school guy... remember hearing Alex skolnick from Testament (previously a Heritage H150 artist) said weight is on the LP that rocks.... 

    Fast forwarding today i was lucky to have pickup a 2001 era R7 BB at 4.5kg, R8 at 4.4kg and recently R9 at 4kg with my H150 oxblood whom i bought last year weights 4.3kg.... i probably think LP least at 4kg.... not too light else it wont feel like an LP

    Does the H150 sound different than a G brand LP?

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    10 hours ago, hinesarchtop said:

    You could line up 7 R7s and they would sound similar, but not exactly the same.

    A while back I had several L.P. style guitars in the house so a friend and I decided to have a tone party. The lineup consisted of an R7 goldtop from mid 2000s, a 70s L.P custom, a L.P. classic, and finally a core 150 with stock 225 pickups. We played all through a Suhr SL68 100w plexi style head into a 70s Marshall 412 bottom cab loaded with original blackbacks. I really do love a good R7 with the fatty neck and burstbuckers, but I've gotta say, we both clearly choose the Core 150 as the champion that day. When I first heard those 225 pickups I was underwhelmed.  I just didn't spend enough time to get what makes them good. The lower output makes for great clarity, but when run into an amp that is cranked up it was a thing of sonic beauty. Seriously, it sounded way better than the guitars that were there that day. The L.P. custom had some hand wound units...can't remember the winder. Also, the R7, whole lit was a nice guitar, I've had other ones that were better sounding. Saying that a core 150 sounded "Les Pauly" is an odd statement. 

    Was actually late on an LP... but isnt the gibson custombucker similiar to the 226 parson pickup? Both has alnico 3 magnets... except for 225 parsons is potted and that could have blanketed the unpotted pickup abit.... yet what are the tonal diff between these? The 225 parson vs Custombuckers.... 

    Does the H150 sound different than a G brand LP?

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    There is a certain wood qualities that brings out the tone which each of us are looking at.... not just the G's Rs which i personally felt they are consistent in everyway which played unplugged its so loud and has that girthy mid quack... where the H150 new era i recieved sound more balanced out sweeter chimer than the Gs.... 

    I did a comparison when i first recieves my H150 oxblood it turns out that the QC isnt at best and i wanna do an exchange but i ended up keeping the H150 after testing out a new piece whom Heritage had sent out.... 

    The first piece i gotten weights about 9lbs where the new replacement felt lighter and am sure i did set the string height to roughly same ballpark and tune were same gauge too.... but what it impressed on me was the original whom i gotten just sounded more ballsy, tighter more aggressive then the new replacement piece which sounded "meh" 

    Since then i always think heavier LP would more or less sounded better imo...?  

    Into the Gs i own 1 black beauty R7 an R8 and R9.... both the Rs plays and sounded fantastic while i gotta chance to try a Standard LP and the tone it yield is telling.... 

    Heritage H150 traditionally best built years/eras?

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    On 4/28/2024 at 11:48 PM, Kuz said:

    1) I like the feel and generally the look of the "aging" on CCs.  But the headstock aging is a little too much for sure.

    2) The tuners do suck.  I replaced them with drop in Gotohs and it is a HUGE improvement.

    3) The pickups sound OK, but I like A2s so I dropped in a used set of Throbak SLE-101s.  I called Heritage to see if they would sell me a set of unpotted Parson Street pickups, but they said no because they were all currently potted. 

    Cool !! Show us ya H150CC? Yup i agree the tuner sucks.... it happened so with the new H150 too its not the regular grover instead its a 3rd party replica.... 

    But which gotoh tuner model you went with? 

    As for the potted PU... you might wanna take out the covers and do alittle heating over ya PU hopefully most of its wax would melt out ?

    I haven tried the 225 parsons H150CC pickups yet... but so far am pretty happy with my R9 R8 both had burstbuckers and its really open and aggressive sounding ! For potted A2 PU not sure how well it holds out...

     

    Heritage H150 traditionally best built years/eras?

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    Posted · Edited by hopkinwfg

    On 4/25/2024 at 10:34 PM, TalismanRich said:

    From the stand point of body thickness, binding and angles,  I haven't seen any real change until the CC.   The CC headstock size and neck angle are different from the standard.   I also remember there being a difference with the body carve between the standard and CC line. 

    I haven't played a newer standard in a year, so I'm going on memory here, but the standard 150 felt similar to my 2003 157, except the neck was a touch beefier, more like my 535. 

     

     

    With what you described on the latest H150 CC the Wilson spec, will you say the new H150CC being different from the older H150 as being more of that "historically accurate Les paul" while the new era H150 remains neutral as to what the old Heritage were doing on their H150s back in the day...?

    Heritage H150 traditionally best built years/eras?

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    Howdy all Heritage geeks....  would like to ask in context of tradition and spirit of these Heritage H150 specifically which era or years were built among the best of Heritage guitars before it changed hands to the new owners.... 

    Not to get me wrong... i have a H150 new era and am currently working on to getta H150CC and i am also wanting an older build H150 before Heritage changed hands... but i just dont know which years was it built among the best.... in terms of their hands on craftmanship, wood selection .... 

    Seen few on reverb and its very tempting...early 2000s era or late 90s era be good?

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    2 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

    The "Concept Set" writeup isn't really clear as to whether they are made "Just like" the Telegib set, or whether they are just a JB and Jazz made with old style base plates and made to look just like the telegib. I don't know if there would be much sonic difference.

    Thank anyway !! But anybody could help chime in ? Appreciate !!

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    23 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

    "clinical" might be a good way to put it, though they aren't as "bad" as the Schaller or Carvin / Kiesel pickups, which are almost sterile. That's not always a bad thing, but if you want to rock and get some snarl, they are not the best choice. I love the '59s and the JB pickups, but when I want an old school raunchy rock sound, I grab my H158 with Seth Lovers. I also like the 57 Classic and Classic + set in my SG.

    Have ya tried the true Jeff beck telegib pickups on H150s? 

    It appears to be made available thru duncan concept model.... how different are these telegib JBs vs antiquity jazz/JB?

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    Posted · Edited by hopkinwfg

    1 hour ago, TalismanRich said:

    I think Tbone is saying to low the JB because the output can be higher than the '59.    Output will increase the closer the string is to the pickup.

    You might also look at the SD  '59 custom hybrid.   It's a medium output and according to SD, it has much more midrange than the more mid scooped '59.

    https://www.seymourduncan.com/single-product/59-custom-hybrid

    Ohhh.... thanks mate !! I like the JB but on the other hand i have found the JB that i have (newer version) on my Jackson is clinical and less open compares to the burstbuckers on my gibson R8 ..... i wonder if its the potting effect on the JB that causes such character then i will go with unpotted JB.... have heard of the throbak 101plus with A5 magnets and i suppose its very open organic but with the mid we like.....?

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    7 hours ago, tbonesullivan said:

    More low thick mids than the '59? Custom 5 from Seymour Duncan. It's a Duncan Custom with an A5 magnet, like a beefier 59.

    Gibson does make some nice pickups, but I find their naming conventions to be pretty confusing. Most of their pickups are vintage voiced though, and honestly overpriced for what they are. I would consult a custom maker if you were looking to spend Gibson level money on pickups.

    My H150 has two '59s, and I love the sound it has. I have some Hamers with '59 / JB sets, which I also love, just gotta remember to lower the JB a bit to get it how I like it.

    I supposed a low mids kinda pup with the mids thats aggressive will make the H150 standout thats just me... i think the H150 sound way clearer and lots highs... its good in a way it also sound organic but i felt its missing out some mids on the 59 pup....

    But did you mean the JB will sound much better when lowering the pup lower away from strings? 

     

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    1 hour ago, ElChoad said:

    I may be a little late, but I have a set of Gibson BB2/3 I pulled out of an Epi '59 Standard. They were pulled out about a month after I got it. Just in case you feel like rolling pickups.

    Thanks for ya offer but am now pretty set on the right pickups being an antiquity jazz/JB ... i just wanna mod this to be a close jeff beck 54.... 😅

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    3 hours ago, TalismanRich said:

    I think the Antiquity is more vintage output with a lower wind and A2 magnets.    I wouldn't think it was close to the JB.

    Thanks but am still not sure what to put in.... but does anybody here knows what kinda pickup did jeff beck used after he purchased that goldtop 54 makeover which later becomes the famous oxblood color? Was it merely an old PAF by gibson originally it had when it was made in goldtop or it swapped out for the duncan JB model ? 

    set of Gibby Burstbuckers on New era H150?

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    Howdy.... i was thinking if a set of the Gibson burstbuckers in alnico V be a good fit on the H150? 

    I need more girthy thick low mids than scoop up of the 59s.... has anybody installed set of burstbuckers A2, A4 or A5 and yield good results? Being not too much on the highs ? But with a weightier girthy mids still tight on the bottom lows ?

     

    Am a mid output player but not too low.... i actually think a duncan JB would foot the bill on my H150 yet because mine is an Oxblood H150 and i just wanna mod it being a tribute jeff beck guitar..... so to speak a gibson burstbucker with an alnico V be a better fit as its more vintage vibe in it?

    Incoming H150

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    2 hours ago, michaeljames said:

    Not sure on the neck angle older v newer 150s.  Maybe another HOCr can comment?

     

    Heritage H150 2.webp

    Congrats on this mate !!! Its a really special guitar... and i cant believe its sale for such affordability... especially the ebony fretboard is something out of the blue !! It certainly has that tighter middy tone added ?

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