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  1. On 4/22/2024 at 2:48 PM, davesultra said:

    (IMO) I don’t really believe that any years of the “Pre-Plaza” era H-150s’ were any better or worse. You really have to take them on a case by case basis. 

    Yes!

    On 4/22/2024 at 6:29 PM, Kuz said:

    This...period.

    Yes!

    On 4/23/2024 at 6:41 PM, Jwmusic said:

    Purely my own experience and anecdotes from others. I own a 98 H150 and a late 80s- early 90s 535. Both are incredible guitars and every person who has tried them comments on them, both will be on tour with me for a up coming project.
    Ive heard a lot of people say about this era being sought after as the best was incredible and the worst just average. However I have also heard of the inconsistency’s of this era but I’d argue that’s down to the hand made nature.
    Conversely, I’ve played several transition years heritages from across the range and they were all average at best and mediocre at worst. The shop I work for was a UK dealer at the time and could not shift them for this reason. Poor finishing such as bad fret work, poor woods, defects such as incorrect neck angle, electrical issues and just general poor QC when compared to the obvious comparatives.
    I have heard since the new take over quality has vastly improved again and they are once again the sort after guitars they were.  

    Although some of the coolest Heritages I've played have been old ones, a good percentage of the worst quality, I've seen were also from the early years, with many guitars having to be sent back to the factory! One of my close friends was a Heritage dealer in the so called good old days, and he relayed to me some stories of such guitars, and some newer dealers I've talked too have repeated these stories, so average at best is a fallacy. Also the factory in my opinion was very run down and in need of some good clean up, but these days it's looking great. And some of the new ones are in my opinion the best Heritages I've ever seen, heard, or played! Hands down, with the new guard, the nuts, frets, and binding on the on the standard models look great, and both of my older H150s needed work in all of those departments. The only thing I don't like with the new guard is the relic-ing, especially on the tuners and around the headstock. Another thing, on the custom cores, I think they should offer unpotted humbuckers, for what they are charging for CCs, I think they should cut a deal with Throbak! They should also use better bridges (Faber or ABM would be nice), and better tuners, like Japanese made Klusons (or upscale Gotohs). But all all in all, I think Heritage has upped their game. 

    Things I love that went by the wayside...

    Schaller bridges, tailpieces, and pickups!, I never liked any of them. 

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  2. On 4/25/2024 at 7:57 PM, LonelyLefty said:

    When you used the naptha did you dilute it or did you use it straight? Was it VM&P naptha? Thanks so much for the reply.

    I use plain Zippo lighter fluid, non-diluted, and it works great! My guitar not only smelled of smoke, but of of dank basement. And now it smells fine (like old nitro)!

    This is the guitar I'm referring to...

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  3. On 4/25/2024 at 8:41 PM, TalismanRich said:

    Don't dilute the naphtha with anything.     Nitrocellulose resins are totally insoluble in VM&P naphtha.   The grades that are used by Heritage are dissolved in acetone and I think they might use a touch of alcohol.  

    You don't want to soak the finish,  but a dampened rag should be sufficient.  It will evaporate quickly.  Make sure you use it in a well ventilated area.   Stay away from water heaters and furnaces.

    Yes stay away from flames!

  4. Wipe the entire guitar down with naptha. I've done this to a few smokey guitars. and it has helped immensely. Naptha is safe for nitro finishes! I'm personally not a fan of the ozone generator or fabreeze. I tried that many times and either didn't work (ozone genrator) or my guitar smelled like Fabreeze, which I find almost as unbearable as smoke!

    Leaving my case out in the sun did help immensely help. but I had to leave it outside in my backyard every day for almost a month before it took hold.

    The little fan trick sounds like it would work for hollow body! And I also thought that was the charcoal sounded like a good idea!  Good luck!

  5. 15 minutes ago, RJLII said:

    So glad the size-able group of social justice warriors took it upon themselves to threaten his distribution outlets and create a boycott. Lord knows none of us are smart enough to make our own decisions and without this kind of virtuous assistance we might be buying the wrong stuff for all the wrong reasons. Buy what you want. Don't buy what you don't want. Just keep me out of your politics.

    That goes both ways!

  6. On 3/21/2024 at 6:22 AM, RJLII said:

    I guess my position is that if I find the actions of a particular individual distasteful, I'll cease all interaction with them. What I won't do is create or participate in a mob action to destroy someone's character or their career or their business. That strikes me as the kind of behavior you'd expect from some pissy Jr. High Schooler.

    That’s funny because his behavior was more like a pissy school child than any manufacturer I’ve ever seen. Some of the rants and fights he got in with his customers long before his BLM  behavior should’ve put him out of business. It wasn’t until his BLM remarks though that a size-able group of people saw his true colors. No mob put him out of business, his mouth did and he quit the business himself.  I won’t support that guy again.

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  7. On 2/2/2024 at 5:42 AM, RJLII said:

    I'm hoping they come back stronger than ever. I had one of their OCD pedals. V3 or V4 as I recall. I think Brent still has it. It was a good quality pedal and sounded great. It really chapped my hide when the SJW class decided to assassinate him. 

    It wasn't just the SJW class that thought he was a dick. He treated many of his customers like absolute sh*t. Do a google search and I'm sure find plenty of people that he severely pissed off! There are so many pedals that are better than his why bother. 

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  8. 5 hours ago, deytookerjaabs said:

     

    Yeah, it's kind of a gnarly thing, pickups/guitars like that are somewhere in between really amazing or cheap sound depending on one's taste for tone. I love it.

     

    What did Dolly Parton say? "It costs a lot of money to look this cheap."

     

     

    I love it too, as it makes the guitar feel like a living breathing thing. And Dolly hit the nail on the head!

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  9. 5 hours ago, deytookerjaabs said:

     

    What I'm talking about isn't just potting.

    For instance, I have a strat set right here in a cool replica build, zero potting as requested. Will it squeal? Yeah, I guess if I play with gain. But when you play with the guitar, all the little things like flipping the switch or hitting the body are relatively quiet, barely come through the amp until you really crank it. Yet, the old strat with the grey bottoms, all the extemporaneous noise goes right to the amp and when I moved those pickups around builds? That attribute stayed the same.

    My '64 335, same deal. '62 pat sticker pickups and '64 harness. It's all vintage, no potting ever, every part now 60 years old. But it doesn't have the level of microphonic my '68 Riviera has. You flip the switch on the 335, tap the body, etc, barely comes through the amp. It's quiet like that. Yet, The Riv? You hear the toggle clank more, hear the guitar louder through the amp if you just tap on the body at the same volumes, etc.

    Who knows, that might mean the pickups are going to short out soon, lol. But, it's definitely a thing and it adds just a little something on the note attack IMO.

     

     

     

     

    I agree, it's not just the lack of potting, it's also the wind, the materials, and sometimes even the springs that the pickups are mounted with (or without ie P90). And frankly, some pickups have it more than others. My old USA LP Special had it and it followed the pickups (SHED P90s) when I swapped then into an SG! You can hear every time I hit the pickup selector here. And even with the tone knob turned down to 0 during the woman tone sections you can hear it...

    https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8291529

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  10. 47 minutes ago, deytookerjaabs said:

    One thing hard to replicate is the microphonic thing.

    I'm not taking about sI've experqueal/feedback either. I'm talking about the raw aspect of it. Not all old pickups have that thing either, my '62 pat stickers don't. So that's important to consider. But, for instance, I have some old strat grey bottoms. Upon installing them when I flipped the 5-way switch it came through the amp far louder than the switches on any other guitar. It was like "ooooh, we got a wild one here!".

    I've had that same feeling with other vintage guitars regardless of the finer details. You hit the toggle switch and it goes "ker kuh klunk" right through the pickups, like the guitar is humming.

    That type of microphonic makes a guitar ring a bit different, subtle and more personal but it's still there. If I had to go off the ledge, I'd say those guitars you hear just a tiny bit more body in the note on that first millisecond of the pick attack. That's not something I've experience with replica pickups/harness as of yet.

    I've experienced it many times with Throbaks, and in their first few runs I saw more more than one that got too microphonic. I actually have fixed a few microphonic issues with Throbaks. I love microphonic pickups. Old timer Gretsch fans used to call that wood in the sound "knock"!

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  11. 20 hours ago, rwinking said:

    Therein lies the issue....What exactly is the original PAF tone? I mean which PAF tone? I have a friend with a 58 Burst and it is more the guitar than the pick ups. The guitar acoustically is just that much different. He also has a dot neck 335 and the pick ups are different sounding than the burst.

    That's not an issue as long as they find a few good examples of PAF tone that's good enough. Most of them from the good years share enough DNA to make the chase worthwhile. And that's why Throbak offers more than one good variant of that tone. And yes, the original bursts and goldtops do have a considerably different wood tone than the newer ones further confusing things.

  12. The exact science is finding great examples from the past, finding out why they sounded so good, and then consistently being able to wind a pickup that gets that solid tone consistently. I know Throbak pickups are expensive, but frankly, I've never heard a bad one. And yes,  maybe a pickup is not too complicated of an item, but sourcing the right materials to assemble pickups takes a bit, and I think Throbak not only sourced the right materials, they put the work in to get the details that make the pickup winding right, and they got the winders. The proof is in their track record. They make a consistently good pickup. And they sell for what people will pay for them!

    And these Gibson pickups? Most people around here know that I'm a Gibson fan, but I don't think they are that consistent in their pickups. They have hit and misses even in the same pickups. I've heard and installed many good and bad examples of Classic 57's, Burstbuckers, and Custombuckers. If I truly thought they had nailed the original PAF tone, I would buck up the money for these limited editions, but I seriously doubt they did,

    On 2/29/2024 at 1:36 PM, davesultra said:

    Yup, I find it odd to think of someone attempting to make exact science of an “un-exact” process.

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  13. 3 hours ago, TalismanRich said:

    I've had a Line 6 PODxt for years, and have used it for recording bass, but I never really liked it for recording guitar.   I've also got an RP355 but I found it way too complex to set up, and didn't like the sounds.

    For the past several months,  I've been getting together with two guys from our band back in '75.    The drummer has a nice setup with his drum miked but direct in for guitar, bass and vocals.    He records things on his Zoom H6.     The Line6 was "ok" but a pain to make changes on the fly,  and was noisy as all hell when I plugged my pedalboard into it.  So it's been just plain guitar through a Fender Deluxe model on the Line6.

    There's a guy out in Salt Lake City that has been using his Iridium for several album releases on Soundcloud.   He's done some amazing work with his.  That started me looking at options,  like the Dream 65,  the ToneX and the Iridium.   Last weekend,  a local fellow on Facebook Marketplace had listed an Iridium for a good price, so we met up the other morning at the golf course and did the deal.  

    I'm impressed.   The only thing it really doesn't have is a true reverb, but adding the "room" sound seems to add just enough ambience to make it not sound flat.   I spent about an hour with the Millennium and the 525 today.   I think I'll be revamping my pedal board to include the Strymon.   Then if I need to play through an amp,  I can just bypass the pedal.

    Now, I just need to figure out settings that work best for me, but I'm liking it so far.

     

     

    who's the guy in Salt Lake City?

  14. 9 hours ago, LK155 said:

    $1K for a couple of pickups?  You could likely buy a decent guitar for that.  Obviously Gibson is not a not-for-profit organization.  Pass.

     

    What do you mean not for profit? The run of 1000 sold out immediately, I bet that was a pretty profit! That said, for the big money (still less than a $1000) I would rather go with Throbak.

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  15. 9 hours ago, rwinking said:

    People around here seem to be all about boutique pick ups. I have some but I don't notice them being any better than Duncans or Dimarzios, just another flavor. Tha being said, I am not sure what an H-574 is. Is it similar to an H-575? I have an H-576 which is simialr to the 575 so I think my recommendation would be in the ballpark, especially for jazz playing. ANy of the Dimarzio PAFs sound great int that style guitar. I settled for his 36th Anniversary PAFs but I also liked his 59 or 57 PAFs. All low output and really smooth. The Duncan Seth Lovers also work well in there....basically any well built Vintage style PAF clone should do well. Again, I tried the snob jazz pickups (price was no object at the time) and liked them a lot but,I like the Duncan and Dimarzios a lot too and they are a lot cheaper. There is that congnitive dissonance thing going on a lot: I paid more for these pick ups so they must sound better. I did a shoot out with a dimarzio  and a Jim Wagner Filmore. They tested out as similar on paper and I could not tell the difference sonically. But there was a $225 price difference. Of course my ears have paid a price of years  playing guitar so I may be wrong here. And around here, a lot of people like the stock Schallers for jazz. but I really don't.

    I also like some DiMarzio pickups (biased though as I'm endorsed by them for acoustic pickups). I recently put a set of Twang Kings in one of new Tele builds...

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    and I also put a PAF-59 and a Super Distortion in the bridge of my Telecaster Deluxe.

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    As for Duncans I have a set of custom Shop Peter Green pickups in my Tobacco Burst H150...

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    and a Billy Gibbons BG1400 in another one of my Tele builds...

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