tulk1 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Well, it finally turned nice (eh, beautiful!!) weather outside. So, to that end I took the Millie SAE out and shot some pics. Just a bit of background to refresh the memory modules. Got this off the 'bay about 6 weeks ago. It's an SAE, which the specs say is a flat back, laminate top. But ... mine is arched back and top. The top may be laminate. But do the boys even do an arched lam? Pics: In the Case http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-incase2.jpg[/img] http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-incase.jpg[/img] Arched Top: http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-arch1.jpg[/img] Arched Back: http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-archback.jpg[/img] http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-back1.jpg[/img] Inside the F-Hole: http://eriador1.com/MillieSAE/mil-sae-fhole-close.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Well, it finally turned nice (eh, beautiful!!) weather outside. So, to that end I took the Millie SAE out and shot some pics. Just a bit of background to refresh the memory modules. Got this off the 'bay about 6 weeks ago. It's an SAE, which the specs say is a flat back, laminate top. But ... mine is arched back and top. The top may be laminate. But do the boys even do an arched lam? tulk ... The Kenny Burrell Grove Master is an arch top /back laminate http://www.heritageguitar.com/GrooveMaster.htm I think the H-525 PTD is also a laminate top, it's hard to find detailed info on that model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrocks Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Nice Heritage dude!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 tulk ... The Kenny Burrell Grove Master is an arch top /back laminate http://www.heritageguitar.com/GrooveMaster.htm I think the H-525 PTD is also a laminate top, it's hard to find detailed info on that model. Well, if it is a laminate, it would put it right there in good company with the 525 and KB GM, eh? Not that I'd like it any less, either. Kinda reminds me of the late 60s- late 70s when Gibby didn't keep very good records of their models. Widh the boys would put something in the guitar somewhere when the model differs from the specs. Should would help us down the road. :undecided: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bob Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 no access in the back!!! cool > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 that looks like a laminate to me. my 158 is an arched top/back laminate. Nothing wrong with that. Actually laminates are stronger.(and cheaper). no need for back access if it's got f-holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzee87t Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 The only millenium that has arched back is the H-158, so it looks like you got an extra 158 and they labeled it an SAE? Or they just goofed up. Either way thats a great guitar. http://www.heritageguitar.com/models/MilH158ssb.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Flying Bird Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Tulk, that's one damn nice looking guitar. I would slap cream rings, nipple and gold knobs on it. I think that would make the wood shine more. Man, it is slick as is! What does the neck feel like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bob Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Tulk, that's one damn nice looking guitar. I would slap cream rings, nipple and gold knobs on it. I think that would make the wood shine more. Man, it is slick as is! What does the neck feel like? like this? 5755.jpg 5755.jpg_thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Tulk, that's one damn nice looking guitar. I would slap cream rings, nipple and gold knobs on it. I think that would make the wood shine more. Man, it is slick as is! What does the neck feel like? I do like the creme surrounds, etc. Might do that some day. The only millenium that has arched back is the H-158, so it looks like you got an extra 158 and they labeled it an SAE? Or they just goofed up. Either way thats a great guitar. Thats what I was getting at. This guitar should have a flat back, but it doesn't. The label on the inside says "SAE" and that is about it. I took a pic of the label, but apparently didn't resize that one for posting. Might do that later tonite. It's definitely an SAE - Stereo Acoustic Electric. Works and sounds great! You have to boost the acoustic side a bit, tho'. The neck is one of the thinner style. I could use a fatter neck on it. But I'm getting used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I would call it a millennium 158 SAE. mine is labeled 'Millenium 158' and is the same except for the sae. http://www.cjod.net/photos/heritage/heritage.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 I dunno. Something about yours just doesn't look Right. :angel: Seriously: They are very similar aren't they? Iit looks like your pup surrounds are on backwards. Is that just the angle of the pic, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I dunno. Something about yours just doesn't look Right. bahhhh! go ahead and say it : 'sinister' http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sinister pickup rings ? hmmm. dunno , they slant towards the neck, so I think they is proper . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Seacup Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 +1 karma for everyone who posted a picture in this thread...makes me want to go get my Milly DC out and play it. But, then my wife would know I own one. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 +1 karma for everyone who posted a picture in this thread...makes me want to go get my Milly DC out and play it. does that include posting a link to a picture ? , cause I was debating whether I should copy/paste it or link it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Here's my Millie - note the pickup rings slant towards the neck and the f-holes indicate a solid top http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/SouthpawGuy/millennium9.jpg[/img] http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/SouthpawGuy/millennium10.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Here's my Millie - note the pickup rings slant towards the neck and the f-holes indicate a solid top neat!, I'm wondering what is the rationale of a flat back? Seems like an arched back would be extra work to create, yet your model is higher end- I'm guessing that it allows them to have solid front and back, whereas a carved/arched front back might be somehow a structural compromise ? Also , is the carved top two pieces ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Seacup Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 does that include posting a link to a picture ? , cause I was debating whether I should copy/paste it or link it. +1 from the King of Cold Medicine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzee87t Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 With regards to the pickup ring, it's not the proper angle on the millies for the bridge pickup. It drives me nuts to look at it as the angle is just wrong. The carved top should be the word on quality but let us come up with some data before making the determination that solid carved v laminate is a benefit. I think what tulk has here is pure production frankenstein. They either mis-labeled it or they had some excess here or there that they moved into production as another model. I would call that a rare bird and hopefully it sounds nice too. Twenty years into the amero that will be worth some kind of fiat money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 With regards to the pickup ring, it's not the proper angle on the millies for the bridge pickup. It drives me nuts to look at it as the angle is just wrong. The carved top should be the word on quality but let us come up with some data before making the determination that solid carved v laminate is a benefit. I think what tulk has here is pure production frankenstein. They either mis-labeled it or they had some excess here or there that they moved into production as another model. I would call that a rare bird and hopefully it sounds nice too. Twenty years into the amero that will be worth some kind of fiat money I think I like what you just said. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthpawGuy Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 neat!, I'm wondering what is the rationale of a flat back? Seems like an arched back would be extra work to create, yet your model is higher end- I'm guessing that it allows them to have solid front and back, whereas a carved/arched front back might be somehow a structural compromise ? Also , is the carved top two pieces ? The top is indeed a two piece ... you can see that clearer in this picture http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/SouthpawGuy/millennium2.jpg[/img] As for the flat back I'm guessing that as the Millie is of chambered construction as opposed to a semi hollow it was found work better for contructing the guitar and for creating the rear access panel. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod65 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 With regards to the pickup ring, it's not the proper angle on the millies for the bridge pickup. It drives me nuts to look at it as the angle is just wrong. .... will be worth some kind of fiat money mmmm. not seeing it. looks proper to me - angled towards the headstock, matching the general direction of the 'action' . right ? 'fiat' money ? I'm hoping for Maserati myself, or at least Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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