barrymclark Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Given that the H575 and Sweet 16 have very, very similar bodies at a glance (other than the top material), is the bracing the same on them or are they different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 this has been kicked around some in the past...although it is a topic that I am always happy to entertain..... http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/19990-575-vs-sweet-16/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HRB853370 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Spectrum13 should chime in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 To your question specifically (oops), my understanding is that if the top is routed for one or more pickups, it will have parallel bracing. Otherwise, expect X bracing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 To your question specifically (oops), my understanding is that if the top is routed for one or more pickups, it will have parallel bracing. Otherwise, expect X bracing. I've generally understood the same; however, although the Sweet 16's I have seen generally have floating pickups, I have seen a couple with set-in pickups. That is what got me wondering. Did they change the bracing for those models or are they generally parallel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I am getting out of my depth. On the provided link, there was a comment that a single routed pick up can have X bracing. The other complication is that a non-routed 575 is a custom and as such is not standardized. There are sure some pretty customs out there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 this has been kicked around some in the past...although it is a topic that I am always happy to entertain..... http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/19990-575-vs-sweet-16/ Well, that pretty well answered the what is it normally question. I guess they just changed the bracing to parallel for the set-in pickup option. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum13 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 575 and Sweet 16 have the same body with floating and single pickups having x bracing. Two pups will not be cross braced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 575 and Sweet 16 have the same body with floating and single pickups having x bracing. Two pups will not be cross braced. The man knows. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bob Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Sweet 16 is long scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 Sweet 16 is long scale Yup. I was asking about the bracing though. I had a hunch that it was X-bracing but wasn't sure since I had seen models with set-in dual humbuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bornot2bop Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 the single routed humbucker '16 I briefly owned was X-braced. nice guitar, but I actually preferred the tone of my former 575 because the tone was fuller on the '75. the '16 was a tad on the thin side to my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I do love the tone of my 575. My asking here was out of pure curiosity. If I were to get another Heritage.... I could so see it being another one but with maybe different pickups just to have a somewhat different flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum13 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I do love the tone of my 575. My asking here was out of pure curiosity. If I were to get another Heritage.... I could so see it being another one but with maybe different pickups just to have a somewhat different flavor. What about a Guild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 What about a Guild? I could see a Guild too! I am looking at potentially getting one later this year. ...like a Manhattan. Would go nicely with my Heritage H575 and Gretsch 6120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Love my 63 Starfire with DeArmonds, although it doesn't get anywhere near the play that my Heritages do.... http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/dogmanco/starchild.jpg edit: for whatever reason, I can no longer post an image link to photobucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bornot2bop Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 the X-170 Manhattan has a much fuller archtop tone for jazz than the Sweet 16....not even close, in my experience. and don't forget what an excellent buy the DeArmond X-155 and X-135 are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith7940236 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I really love my Corona X-150! But you can't beat an H-575 for an affordable carved archtop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The Sweet 16 is a favorite of jazz players due to its 25.5 scale and smaller body width. When amplified it comes very close to a larger archtop's feel and tone, especially with proper amp and EQ adjustments. If you take a look around the archtop market today, many of the top builders have a 16" archtop as part of their product line. They are so comfortable to play standing or sitting. Finally, like the Golden Eagle, Sweet 16's are made to sound fantastic played acoustically or amplified. That may be the result of the bracing and the Spruce top. I tend to play mine without an amp, or at very low volumes so I can hear her through the F-holes. Sweet! As for the 575, what can you say? They are perfect for players transitioning from the more common 24.75 scale (solid or semi-hollow) guitars. Solid wood and a 16" bout can't sound bad with or without an amp. And the amplified tone is killer! I find it a bit thicker than the Sweet 16, just as 2B stated above. That may be what the designers were looking for. But the 575 is a great all around player for live, studio or home use. You can't go wrong with either. Just pick your favorite and go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bornot2bop Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I really love my Corona X-150! But you can't beat an H-575 for an affordable carved archtop. that X-150 is smokin!!! there are 2 blonde X-150's on feebay at this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yup. Either the x150 or x170 would make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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