JeffB Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Anyone care to define that. Vid or clip examples would be great. Seems like everyone has a different idea of what it is. To some its fat creamy overdrive to others its a tight crunch and then to others its a clean with a little hint of buzz/fizz/fur. To me the "just" kind of implies a clean sound with a hint of break up. Whether that's speaker, preamp or output tube break up is a whole other topic. Just breaking up seems to imply an amp that is real clean that is "just" breaking up. Not an amp that is already breaking up and just breaking up more. If the "breaking up" was unaccompanied by "just" then it could be anything from light overdrive to full on metal unless another descriptor was added to narrow it down. So what is the generally accepted level of breakup for "just breaking up"? So many reviews I read mean nothing unless I know what they mean by "Just breaking up". " I had it set to just breaking up and was nailing that elusive and desirable classic rock/blues/pop/fusion tone" Not obsessing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_hall Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Consider it to be within the range of the first 10% of clipping that is possible with the given amp. Just do that ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbp810 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 To me thats when you hit that spot where touch sensitivity/pick attach is the differential Where you can strum a chord easy and it rings through clean, dig into it a bit and you hear the amp growl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schundog Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Breaking up is hard to do. Other than that poor attempt at humor, I agree with KPB810's definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitArtMan Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 It's different on different amps: a Blackface Fender breaks up different than aTweed Fender which breaks up different than Marshall which breaks up different than a Vox. This clip demonstrates some on the edge tones at various points but check out at about 1:43 when he hits it hard and gets a nice crunch then backs off for crystal clear pickin' - all with the volume knob and/or touch: BTW, my Tungsten Crema Wheat is a keeper. The guy who sold it to me contacted me and wanted it back - I had to tell him sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 argh, sounds like overanalyzing to me...probably originated with turning a non MV amp up until it got warm as far as all the modern amps with preamp distortion etc you are on your own trying to define that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HRB853370 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Anyone care to define that. Vid or clip examples would be great. Seems like everyone has a different idea of what it is. To some its fat creamy overdrive to others its a tight crunch and then to others its a clean with a little hint of buzz/fizz/fur. To me the "just" kind of implies a clean sound with a hint of break up. Whether that's speaker, preamp or output tube break up is a whole other topic. Just breaking up seems to imply an amp that is real clean that is "just" breaking up. Not an amp that is already breaking up and just breaking up more. If the "breaking up" was unaccompanied by "just" then it could be anything from light overdrive to full on metal unless another descriptor was added to narrow it down. So what is the generally accepted level of breakup for "just breaking up"? So many reviews I read mean nothing unless I know what they mean by "Just breaking up". " I had it set to just breaking up and was nailing that elusive and desirable classic rock/blues/pop/fusion tone" Not obsessing at all. And I thought this thread was about ditching the girlfriend....(sigh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 It's different on different amps: a Blackface Fender breaks up different than aTweed Fender which breaks up different than Marshall which breaks up different than a Vox. This clip demonstrates some on the edge tones at various points but check out at about 1:43 when he hits it hard and gets a nice crunch then backs off for crystal clear pickin' - all with the volume knob and/or touch: BTW, my Tungsten Crema Wheat is a keeper. The guy who sold it to me contacted me and wanted it back - I had to tell him sorry... Cool vid. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 argh, sounds like overanalyzing to me...probably originated with turning a non MV amp up until it got warm as far as all the modern amps with preamp distortion etc you are on your own trying to define that lol Why yes. Yes I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Here is the definitive definition of TONE, BREAK-UP, MAKE-UP, SHAKE-UP, SHAPE-UP....... and BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 To me thats when you hit that spot where touch sensitivity/pick attach is the differential Where you can strum a chord easy and it rings through clean, dig into it a bit and you hear the amp growl. and this is why Brian is building my amp: the KBP Starlite. We think the same in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitArtMan Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Here is the definitive definition of TONE, BREAK-UP, MAKE-UP, SHAKE-UP, SHAPE-UP....... and BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great clip John! I can honestly say I hadn't heard of Sean until you started posting about him here - now I own his entire discography. Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 wow that guy kicks ass!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Great clip John! I can honestly say I hadn't heard of Sean until you started posting about him here - now I own his entire discography. Great stuff! Yea, I obviously have all of Sean's recordings too. As good as his studio recordings are, these live clips are just AMAZING!!!! He was taken from us so young, just when his career was taking off. I never got to see him live. He was to going to be the headliner at the Cincinnati Blues festival in 2008 and I was so looking forward to seeing him. I really believe he was going to be the face of The Blues, but it is sorry that we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zguitar71 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Here is the definitive definition of TONE, BREAK-UP, MAKE-UP, SHAKE-UP, SHAPE-UP....... and BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holly poop that is bad a$$! Makes my love my H150 p-90 gold top even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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