bolero Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 figured I'd record a couple clips of these two....they sound similar, but different pups 535: Lollar Imperials Millie: DiMarzio something-or-others...but they sound good! gotta run some errands this AM but here's a pic meanwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhoadsScholar Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would like to hear that comparison. Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If the guitars are the same color won't they sound the same recorded? ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanschoyck Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If the guitars are the same color won't they sound the same recorded? ................. That's exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 ha...well, to avoid coloring the sound, I plugged straight into the amp with no FX to record I used a close sm57 and an 8 foot distant, off axis CAD E100. Hard panned left & right sm57 =L E100 =R amp is 1x12 supro 1624T...maybe I should have done some clean stuff...it's all snotty-cranked-supro wanking. apologies for the same generic licks https://soundcloud.com/roofleaks/supro-panned https://soundcloud.com/roofleaks/millie-supro-panned my consensus: they are both great sounding gtrs. and they sound fairly similar, which is no surprise as they are nearly the same construction, 535 is a bigger body the millie sounds a little more raucous/edgy, maybe due to the more modern pickups. maybe due to the smaller body. I'm sure the newer strings factor in, too. the 535 has OLD strings, maybe a year old? it does have a lot more low end, more girth, a bigger sound....which in a mix may not punch thru as well as the millie? I also prefer the more vintage voiced pups, so I got carried away & played it longer. I would like to hear the Millie with Lollar Imperials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I found the 535 sounded much better to my ears.... Millie seemed just as you said, raucous and edgy. 535 a bit smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 wow I just listened to these, there's a lot of digital artifacts ( clicks & pops ) in there, I must have screwed up the levels somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunote Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Just comparing what's the sound is at 1:20 for the 535 and 2:20 for the Millie, I think I prefer the Millie. Even cranked, the notes are more distinct. I maybe the only or at least one of a very few who have both a 535 and Millie with the same pickups. That lets me do a direct A/B between the guitars. What I've generally found is that the millie produces somewhat more refined cleans. The sound is a bit creamier. The 535 has a slightly more open sound. Sort of like the effect of turning the presence setting up on the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 these are output without boosting the levels...so you may need to turn up your speakers, but it'll sound better https://soundcloud.com/roofleaks/millie-supro-2 https://soundcloud.com/roofleaks/535-supro-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 that's interesting, Blunote!! I also suspect the larger hollowbody of the 535 gives it more low end, which may sound muddy in comparison to the smaller millie. not that either of them sound BAD....just a different tonal palette I think I had my levels too high on the close mic, it is still crackling a bit...those darn USB computer recording tools, what I need is an SSL console!! or at least a solid mic preamp, i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 How do you record? Mine always sounds like crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbright Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I seem to like the 535 a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I need to bust out my Zoom H2 and do some recordings of the various heritages I have. Have you figured out what the dimarzios are yet? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunote Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 that's interesting, Blunote!! I also suspect the larger hollowbody of the 535 gives it more low end, which may sound muddy in comparison to the smaller millie. not that either of them sound BAD....just a different tonal palette I think I had my levels too high on the close mic, it is still crackling a bit...those darn USB computer recording tools, what I need is an SSL console!! or at least a solid mic preamp, i guess Next time I do another direct compare I'll check to see if there seems to be a bit more thump in the bass. There just might be. Both guitars have HWR loaded in them. It would be interesting to get DB out here some time to do a direct compare of his new 150 GT with HRWs, to the 535 and Millie though the same amp & settings. BTW nice playing & I like your choice of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulk1 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It's the Millie for me: Note clarity, a bit more "ballsy". Overall a tighter sound. The 535, to my ears and my speakers, seemed a bit mushy, less distinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for the clips! Being able to click b/w the two is appreciated and certainly didn't curb my GAS. Now I can believe the 535 is more versatile even tho' I think I listened with an existing bias (I really want a Millie). While I liked the crisp bridge of the Millie in most passages, the rounder, softer (to me) 535 had better neck tones. It made me wonder if the difference in note definition (that I heard) could be lessened with picking technique, pickup height and judicious use of the guitar's volume knob. I doubt those clips would convince my wife that I need both models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 How do you record? Mine always sounds like crap... well I have an sm57 close to the amp, and another mic further back in the room. to keep them distinct I panned them hard L/R I should have increased the vol of the right channel though, you can barely hear it. the room mic adds a bit of airiness & rounds it out a bit IMO will have to find out about the dimarzios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 ok I think the millie has a Dimarzio air classic & bluesbucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanschoyck Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is very cool. Sometime, we should do one without revealing which is which and let everyone guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunote Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Buzzy -yes, the 535 is a bit more versatile. If you were going to have just one electric guitar, I'd say that's probably the one (maybe with coil split pups). That said, the Millie is one beautiful sounding guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 a friend dropped by last night with a Royer 101 mic, and a Neve 1073 based preamp....I was blown away at how great the recorded sound was, we experimented with driving the preamp at different levels and WOW did it ever juice up the sound I think i need to pick up some of that gear....the preamp sounded great with the sm57 as well, so it wasn't all mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrocks Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Your clips sound great Chris!!! You got me thinking to do a side by side test between my Milli and 535, and also see how they compare to yours...here are the results... 535..... http://www.reverbnation.com/brenthenderson/song/19433298-heritage-535 Milli..... http://www.reverbnation.com/brenthenderson/song/19433279-heritage-milli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 hmm I can't seem to get those to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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