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Filter out some of your finer points Rich.... Heritage just sorts through the lighter pieces they get and earmark for CC. There was a specified range at first, now its just under a specific weight. Profiles on the previous Standard line was the same as the CC. (My '23 H150 has a fatter neck than my 535, just a hair thinner than my 137). The finish on the CC is just one less stage of polishing... It actually costs more to polish a standard line... I thought that was rather curious to hear. Keep the "relic'd" look for those who want to pay for the upcharge, keep it as a Custom Shop/Special Run only along with the Bigsby wiggle-stick. CC's do have better inlays, but that's why you pay for the CC, but pay for the whole package, not just bits and pieces. Get the extra binding, fancier inlays, etc in the 157 and 555. Cases are a different story, however I don't use my cases. I use one of those Mono bags for gigs. My cases are actual decorations now. (They will get used if necessary) Stainless steel frets is a great idea. Came across a fancy Epiphone Les Paul at American Musical Supply that has some 60's/70's racing vibes and they use stainless steel frets on a sub $900 guitar. Rumor is there may be a tonal difference, but I couldn't say.
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Who here does any amp channel swtching via MIDI?
Steiner replied to mars_hall's topic in Amplification and Effects
I just came across these guys, (that’s sick!). I don’t know anything about them but they seem to have what you seek. https://emcustom.eu/eshop/en/midi-switchers/56-UNI6.html?SubmitCurrency=1&id_currency=3 -
I Like the way you guys are thinking!
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The wood for the two are "different", at least for the 150s. Custom Core use selected light weight mahogany pieces. The Standard line use the heavier pieces, but now do weight relief. Some people will claim that doing weight relief does bad things, but that hasn't been my experience. The Millenniums are similar in shape and spec as the 150s, but are hollowed out. My Mille LE is as good as my 157 with a heavy dense chunk of wood. Same bridge and tailpiece, same strings. Not necessarily sounding exactly the same with different pickups, but if I crank up the distortion, who can tell what the guitar sounds like. It's like trying to judge the better tasting piece of steak after you douse it in salt, pepper, and cover it in a bottle of A1 sauce! Some people will claim that the denser wood is better, others will say that lighter wood is more resonant. Whatever... If you believe it, it's true! It's on the internet so its a fact. Oh yeah, the earth is really flat. I read that on the internet too! When you're talking about the 535 and 530, it's a laminate anyway. There should be minimal difference, except for the figuring of the top laminate. I don't know how much of a premium that should command. I don't know the differences in the bridge/tailpiece. There's a difference in neck profile, but that shouldn't be a cost difference. I don't know if they choose different grades of wood. Do they use the better quartersawn for the CC neck? The best quartersawn wood should be more stable due to the orientation of the grain. As the grain goes more towards flatsawn, it can flex more. Pete did say that the finish isn't the same between the two series. The final polishing of the CC line is slightly duller than the Standard lines. It should feel a bit slicker, since the smoother something is, the more you can have some "stiction". It sounds counter intuitive, we had a similar situation in the printing industry. A chrome surface that was too smooth would literally destroy itself in a few hours. If it was above a certain roughness, it would last weeks. I know some people like the fake aging, but for me, if I had a choice between a pristine Standard II and an aged CC at the same price, I would take the Std II. Fake finish checking and fake corrosion isn't for me. I like the inlay work on the CC line. For me, the block inlays on the 535, 555 and 530 CC guitars are a definite advantage. Dots are ok, and I live with them on my guitars, but I bought the 157 for the blocks, extra binding and gold hardware. For a while, I was watching for a red 555, just to get the same vs my 535. Since they are making the pickups, I don't know what premium one would have over the other. Whether it has 5000 turns, or 4750 turns, Alnico II vs III vs V, rough or smooth magnet. I don't know that it makes a tremendous cost difference. It would be a lot less that the difference between nickel and gold plating, especially at the price of gold today! The case of the CC line is definitely nicer than what comes with the standard line. I even mentioned to Mike that the new case that came with my 530 wasn't as nice as my old TKLs that came with my 157, 535, or 140. It's OK, functional, but it binds a bit when I close it. It's not lined up as well. Once snapped down, it's fine. Something I think should be on the CC line would be stainless steel frets. I don't know how much of an issue that would cause with the Plek, but you're already paying a hefty premium. That is an upgrade that I think would be very worthwhile, especially for a guitar that gets a lot of use.
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I see this question all the time.... Custom Core Vs Standard Line. What makes a Custom Core so much better than a Standard model? Weight, wood, pickups, electronics, hardware, etc... Is there really much of a difference truly? Let's take a look at H150's.. A staple guitar for Heritage: Custom Core: Standard Line: So look at these as a comparison, side by side if you can... What does the Custom Core offer you don't get on a Standard Line. For those who have taken the tours at PSP, you may have noticed, Heritage selects both models from the same wood sources, use the same tooling/assembly methods, same operators, same paint, same quality inspection.... Maybe some hardware differences? Maybe different pickups? So in my opinion, there is very little separation between the lines. But perhaps there is a better solution here. Custom Core models should probably be completely different: Standard Line: H150 (P90 and Humbucker), H530, H535, H137, and H575 Custom Core: H157, H555, maybe a H530 custom model that is more like a 555, Eagle Classic, and H717. Custom Core offers Bigsbys and aged finishes. Just something that makes sense to me. Is this unpopular to think like this or is it a does it make sense? I am in no way slamming Heritage as you all know I strongly support them. But there are times I scratch my head... Everyone loves just about every model coming out of the shop, no matter what line.... You really don't hear the complaints like we used to... bad finishes, bad nuts, twisted necks... Those are seemingly been resolved in the last ten years,,,
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Heritage H-535: Standard or Custom Core
DetroitBlues replied to AllThatJazz's topic in Heritage Guitars
I think I saw your post on Facebook asking the same question. Here's my opinion.. Both the custom core and standard line are made in the same place, using the same tooling, from the same selection of woods by the same people. Quality control is the same for both. So other than physical differences (pickups, hardware, and inlays), ask yourself what are you really getting out of it? I have a 2023 standard line H150, it heavy compared to a custom core, but a 535 won't have the same weight variance. Now that both CC and Standard use in-house build pickups.... the lines of demarcation between both models is even blurrier now. If you want the blinging, nicer wood package, get a Custom Core. If you want a solidly built, high quality guitar and save a bit of coin, get a standard line. - Yesterday
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AllThatJazz started following Heritage H-535: Standard or Custom Core
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For those of you that have played/owned both the Standard and Custom Core H-535, is the Custom Core model a noticeable upgrade over the Standard? The Standard is already a very high-quality guitar. I've seen some people say yes (which I'd expect), but have also seen a few people say they actually preferred the Standard model for whatever reason. Curious on people's thoughts.
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So i picked up one of the Carvin stereo amp pedals a few years back and it's really pretty cool. I read about thes Valeton amp/FX modelers getting rave reviews, especially the GP-5 which is on sale at Sweetwater for $63.99. I ordered one as now I will have a complete amp set up that will sit in one hand as a spare amp in case one of my rigs goes down. Everything I have read says this little pedal is amazing sound wise with multiple Chorus, delay, distorion models, etc.as well as amp models and IRs.. I also plan on keeping it in my bag as a spare reverb unit. While watching one of the videos, I noticed Steve Sterlacci playing on an H-535. If you are wanting to see it, it is the second demo video. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GP-5--valeton-gp-5-multi-effects-processor-pedal
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Fred! You're alive! Where have you been hiding? Awesome Heritage Gumby!
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I get what Punkkitty means, maybe use something like a lint roller? Otherwise maybe try a little soapy water and a toothbrush. That felt-like paint is unique, but I believe it should hold up. Pickup is passive. Just an odd duck shape though. If it was active, you'd find a battery door somewhere on the guitar (typically on the back)
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Was the Roy Clark the same size as a 535/55? I thought it was a smaller body for some reason, like a Millennium or Prospect
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Academy is another street in Kalamazoo
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I was thinking of the Academy. I own a Prospect 12 which must be very rare as I have never seen another anywhere. It is a truly great 12 string. There are someother unkown Heritage guitars out there also. I do own the Leon Rhodes model which is very much a tele style guitar. I am always looking for one of the Aaron Cowle Heritage mandolins and would love to try out one of their flat tops.
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Gorgeous guitar!
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Yes, the Prospect is a semi. It's a bit like a smaller version of the 535, much narrower at the waist. It came out in 1991, along with the Academy which is a single cutaway.
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There is another semi-hollowbody named after a street in Kalamazoo. I owned one but I forget what it's called. Starts with P Prospect?
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I thought the Parson's Street was a hollowbody?
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Heritage Guitars Ascent+ (Import series) Deep Dive
ElNumero replied to HANGAR18's topic in Heritage Guitars
But calling it Ascent is kinda like First Act…..I assume they are Chinese made? So maybe Cheritage instead? -
Guitar Makers in Kalamazoo, short documentary
ElNumero replied to bolero's topic in Heritage Guitars
That blue one is identical to my DC from Wolfe, except mine is trans cherry -
Guitar Makers in Kalamazoo, short documentary
ElNumero replied to bolero's topic in Heritage Guitars
Good video, thanks C, but in the second part, what is surprising to me is the guy, Ry Charters, who owns Kal-Tone, never worked for Heritage. Hard to imagine a teenager growing up in Kalamazoo who loved guitars and aspired to repair and build them NOT wanting to work for Heritage. -
Hey, look who popped on! Glad to see you're still around.
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Former (and hopefully future) Heritage owner saying "Hello".
Jazz2Punk replied to Jazz2Punk's topic in Heritage Guitars
Good to hear! I actually just played a beautiful used Heritage Custom Shop Artisan Aged H-530 at a local shop near me: H-530 Antique Natural It's a real stunner but out of my price range. I definitely don't have any qualms about going for a standard. I have no doubt they are fine instruments! -
Former (and hopefully future) Heritage owner saying "Hello".
TalismanRich replied to Jazz2Punk's topic in Heritage Guitars
Welcome back JP. A year ago, I snagged a 530 after checking one out at the factory during PSP. Mine is the original Standard, with the Lollar P90s, not the newer Std II with the new Heritage pickups but it's still every bit a great guitar! It's since edged out my 535 for "most playing time". I can play without an amp, and plug in when I need to. Yeah, prices bumped up, but the standard lines are still good values for a quality US build. Plus they come Plek'd so we hear very few comments about poorly cut nuts or fret issues. The factory is stressing consistently high quality control.