SteveHoffman Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I did a search but it didn't show anything. I have a totally unplayed tweed with brown cloth LIBERTY amp. I don't think it's ever been used before. Looks totally new, tubes are new, perfect condition. It has two wonderful amp covers in matching brown but it has no owner's manual, dang it. Does anyone have a manual for this amp? I doubt they sold many of these. It should have bias point info, etc. in there. Thanks! Also, it works but the reverb is dead. Any suggestions? Much appreciated. I've seen them in white tolex but this is the first and only one I've ever seen in this vintage tweed... Any info would be appreciated. Looks like this one below.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Reverb tanks die really easily and some reverbs are tube driven. Probably the first two things to look for. By the way, beautiful amp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iim7v7im7 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I did a search but it didn't show anything. I have a totally unplayed tweed with brown cloth LIBERTY amp. I don't think it's ever been used before. Looks totally new, tubes are new, perfect condition. It has two wonderful amp covers in matching brown but it has no owner's manual, dang it. Does anyone have a manual for this amp? I doubt they sold many of these. It should have bias point info, etc. in there. Thanks! Also, it works but the reverb is dead. Any suggestions? Much appreciated. I've seen them in white tolex but this is the first and only one I've ever seen in this vintage tweed... Any info would be appreciated. Looks like this one below.. Call Paul Cochrane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsp17 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Enjoy. That's a nice find. I played one once and it was really sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks. It's like a Tweed Bassman or something, pretty neat. I found a PDF of the owners manual. It's an all-purpose one, and I found it right here. Second post! http://www.heritageownersclub.com/forums/topic/17774-heritage-amp-schematics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Welcome to the Liberty Club!!!!!! I also found a n.o.s. Liberty (blonde tolex) recently and it has become my #1 amp! Most any qualified amp tech should be able to work on yours. The reverb is outstanding on that model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsanders Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 one of my favorite amps of the past 10 yrs. if i hadn't already had a Colonial when i tried one, i would've gotten this. Tweed Bassman/JTM45, depending on position of MOOD knob (negative feedback control). fine reverb. if you call PaulC, be prepared for a brief rant on the quality (or lack) of reverb tanks. Paul's great and will be a pleasure to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Here's what CB Perkins said about their tweed covered Liberty...back when they had one. http://cbperkins.blogspot.com/2006/04/just-in-heritage-liberty-head-and.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbp810 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 one of my favorite amps of the past 10 yrs. if i hadn't already had a Colonial when i tried one, i would've gotten this. Tweed Bassman/JTM45, depending on position of MOOD knob (negative feedback control). fine reverb. if you call PaulC, be prepared for a brief rant on the quality (or lack) of reverb tanks. Paul's great and will be a pleasure to talk to. Ahmen to that... I've seen enough bad tanks to go on for hours about them, and I haven't touched but a fraction of a percent of the amps Paul has; and it's only gone downhill since the end of US made Accutronics (Belton can keen labeling them as Accutronics, but they ain't the same tanks anymore) 5639: Call a few local music shops that also do amp repairs and ask if they have a spare reverb tank on hand you could try; someones bound to have a spare known working tank around and not mind you bringing the amp in to plug in a tank to at least rule it out. There is a chance it could be a bad RCA cable as well... or even the possibility of something as simple as someone having unplugged the cables at some point and reversed them when plugging them back in. On that note, before going to far along it might be worth a quick try to reverse them and see if that happens to do the trick (if not, I'd assume they were probably right to begin with and would put them back as they were)... if not, see if you've got a spare set of RCA cables laying around (those same red/black red/white ones used for hooking up stereos and what not will do the trick) and give them a try - when swapping the cables on the tank side, just make sure to pull them out straight and level (don't tug up or down as you pull... 'cause if the tank isn't bad, you don't want to break it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsanders Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Here's what CB Perkins said about their tweed covered Liberty...back when they had one. http://cbperkins.blo...y-head-and.html that's the one i tried. wudda amp. & that rascal Josh is a dazzler on the 6-string, too. typically plays a Golden Eagle through an old Gibson combo, like a BR-4 or BR-9 or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 Much appreciate info and thanks rjsanders, for the manual PDF... This Liberty has sat around unused since 2006 I guess. I got it for $500.00 plus shipping. Good deal I'm guessin'. Wonder why this company went under? I suppose a few of you know and it's none of our biz... Still, a shame, great sounding amplifier. I'll try the wiring from the reverb tank to the electronics. We'll see.. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsanders Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Much appreciate info and thanks rjsanders, for the manual PDF... This Liberty has sat around unused since 2006 I guess. I got it for $500.00 plus shipping. Good deal I'm guessin'. Wonder why this company went under? I suppose a few of you know and it's none of our biz... Still, a shame, great sounding amplifier. I'll try the wiring from the reverb tank to the electronics. We'll see.. Thanks again! enjoy! without looking up the MSRP pricing, i'd guesstimate near $3000 w/the 2x12 tweed cab. MAP pricing for the rig was around $2000 during introductory pricing. i wouldn't think twice about paying $1500 for the head only, market & economy considerations aside - some of the finest parts, construction, & general build anywhere (transformers, cabinetry, you-name-it)... why'd the company fail? mystery to me...general failure in marketing would be my guess, but wuddo i know?...(rhetorical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymclark Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 enjoy! without looking up the MSRP pricing' date=' i\'d guesstimate near 3000 w/the 2x12 tweed cab. MAP pricing for the rig was around 2000 during introductory pricing. i wouldn\'t think twice about paying 1500 for the head only, market & economy considerations aside - some of the finest parts, construction, & general build anywhere (transformers, cabinetry, you-name-it)... why\'d the company fail? mystery to me...general failure in marketing would be my guess, but wuddo i know?...(rhetorical question) [/quote'] If I remember correctly, it was during the Heritage restructuring a few years back. The amp maker just wasn\'t in a position volume-wise to handle the slow-down. That\'s what I remember anyways. I wouldn\'t trust that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsp17 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I got it for $500.00 plus shipping. Good deal I'm guessin'. . Thanks again! Good deal is an understatement! Wow, what a find. I love that amp cab combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsanders Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 If I remember correctly, it was during the Heritage restructuring a few years back. The amp maker just wasn\'t in a position volume-wise to handle the slow-down. That\'s what I remember anyways. I wouldn\'t trust that, though. there are a couple members here who have some insights - one an employee, the other a dealer - but i kinda doubt it was related to restructuring on the guitar side. there was no biz connection between guitars (K'zoo) and amps (outside Nashville). there was a "branding" link, cuz the (co-)owner of the amps worked as marketeer for the guitars and it (amp co.) was always a startup in size, etc. always a tricky thing to grow a biz, esp. in the relatively high end of the hand-built tube amp market...the times (2004-2008) only made it tougher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 $500 is an absolute steal for that amp!!!!!!! The speaker cab is worth at least that!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 Well, I have a few vintage Fender amps (Tweed Vibrolux, etc.) and I wanted a double 12" amp when the occasional loud mood hits me. It's a nice one. Too bad the company didn't succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressure Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Try this for Accutronics service. http://www.sepigroup.com/contactus.html Sound Enhancement Products, Inc. 325 Cary Point Drive, Cary Illinois 60013, 800-284-5172 I believe just as Heritage stayed in Kalamazoo the Accutronics people stayed in Cary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfan Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 $500 is a steal, congrats. Very nice amp to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Funny, I didn't think it was a good deal at the time, thing had no warranty, no nothing. The guy just told me it worked. I was pleased it was NOS and it looks nice. Sounds great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsanders Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 just checked the Heritage lit., MSRP was $2695 head and cab, undated. my guess is that's the 2005 pricing. also guessing the tweed covering would be an upcharge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Wow, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsp17 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Last time I saw that combination in person it was around $1600, used-mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHoffman Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Problem with this amp is that it's too damn loud. Really, the thing can shatter your windows. Way, way too loud for my needs these days. Still, when no one is home, I can at least crank it for a few minutes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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