brentrocks Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 There’s some guy on Facebook arguing with me that Heritage was founded in 1985, because Wycopedia says so!!! OMG!!!!! I know I’m getting old and I know my memory is getting bad. Just looking for some validation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog52 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Incorporated in 1985. From their old website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrocks Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 Then why are there A code (1984) Heritage guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum13 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Founded and incorporated. Three guys can build a few guitars before Bill files paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Seacup Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, brentrocks said: Then why are there A code (1984) Heritage guitars? Because they were screwing around building things in 1984 to see if they really, really wanted to go in to business. Or maybe it was to see if the old fixtures and tooling they bought at the "We're Moving to Nashville!!" fire sale were still operational. I can never remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog52 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Marv told they made the original prototype for the H-140 in a garage. They were definitely making them in 1984. The original H-140 that hung on display at Heritage had a 1984 serial number. It takes time to file all that corporation paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage1970 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Yep- I know they had already started making some in 1984 for sure. I think because they "officially" started (Incorporated) in '85, that's why anyone who just looks on Wikipedia is gonna always say 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog52 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 When Gibson Guitar left Kalamazoo: 'They had to make a decision' - mlive.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferwave Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I remember talking to Jay Wolfe at the 2005 Orlando guitar show in early February of that year. We were talking about the 20th Anniversary model and Jay was taking orders. I mentioned something about their 20th Anniversary coming up on April 1st and he said "No, they already had it" - He didn't mention a date but it sounded like they were making guitars well before the "Official" date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericmusic Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Whether they were making guitars or not, the COMPANY officially starts April 1, 1985 which is Heritage Guitar Incorporated. It's a distinction. They may have been making guitars, even naming them Heritage Guitars, but they weren't fully incorporated until April 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2015 was thirtieth ann so do the math lol fun post oh, the margaritas are good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrocks Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 FOUNDED VS INCORPORATED …terminology is everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Interesting debate. As a legal entity, yes 1985. But the beginning, proof of concept/prototyping was 1984. We all know that here. I’m sure their is a legal reason why they say 1985, may have to do with the legal agreements with Gibson. Pre-Production started in 1984. Production started in 1985. Did anyone here actually buy a Heritage 140 in 1984 in a store or were they given away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANGAR18 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 For all practical intents and purposes 1985 is a very good working number because I'm under the impression that the majority of all the letter "A" serial number guitars made in 1984 were just kept by the employees who made them and maybe a few very close insiders. So if it was as I think it was where customers couldn't just buy a 1984 "A" serial number model back in 1984, then I do understand why everyone is stuck on the 1985 date as their starting point. Kinda like I was conceived in 1964 but I didn't take my first breath of air until about the Memorial Day Weekend of 1965. (Yes I have a birthday later this month.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRich Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Bingo, Hangar! Great analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressure Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 51 minutes ago, HANGAR18 said: (Yes I have a birthday later this month.) Indeed you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinking Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 My parents apparently had sex around mid July, 1952. I was born mid april 1953. Is 1952 the "A" serial number and 1953 the "B?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 The immaculate conception of Heritage Guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 There you go Brent, great analogy to share with the FB experts… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANGAR18 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 11:43 PM, rwinking said: My parents apparently had sex around mid July, 1952. I was born mid april 1953. Is 1952 the "A" serial number and 1953 the "B?" I'm going to go with... yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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