DetroitBlues Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I'm toying with the idea of running through 2 amps when I play live. The bands first "gig" is just a grad party next month we are playing just to get us out and playing live before we start our shows in October. Being all my amps are 20watt 1x12 combos, I thought about running two amps at once. Saw a recent video from Intheblues has me thinking I could do this to get more air moving. Plus the two amps have different voices, so it seems to sound richer/fuller? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 At 1 point I had the music room wired to run as many as 12 amps at once. Things get complicated fast but it is a beautiful experience. Bonamassa has 5 or 6 combos on stage and 2 roadcases with ~6 60s Marshalls just off stage. The caveat here is if, in your band, you're trying to capture the sound of various artists. Each between song break you'll be feverously playing spin the dials. I applaud your Moxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyv4 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 If you don't mind lugging around several amps, I say go for it. You can get some great sounds out of two amps played at once. I have Voo Doo amp selector that allows you to play up to four amps at once. It's really a lot of fun to mess around with. You get some great sounds. The downside is who wants to lug around multiple amps? I use a Quilter Labs 101, 50wat head as a backup amp. It weighs only a couple of pounds and the sound is adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Steiner said: At 1 point I had the music room wired to run as many as 12 amps at once. Things get complicated fast but it is a beautiful experience. Bonamassa has 5 or 6 combos on stage and 2 roadcases with ~6 60s Marshalls just off stage. The caveat here is if, in your band, you're trying to capture the sound of various artists. Each between song break you'll be feverously playing spin the dials. I applaud your Moxy Well, the most tweaking will probably come from the guitar volume and depend greatly on what guitar I'm playing. Most likely my Tele will be number one, just because it cuts through so well. My 137 will be coming along, but as I continue to experiment, I'd like to have my 535 in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitfiddler Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Another option is to bring an extension speaker that is ohm compatible with your amp. Extension speaker cabs weigh much less than combos, and depending on the speaker, can give you the sound variety you seek. Your back will thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Gitfiddler said: Another option is to bring an extension speaker that is ohm compatible with your amp. Extension speaker cabs weigh much less than combos, and depending on the speaker, can give you the sound variety you seek. Your back will thank you. THIS! ^^^ What a great idea! No ground loops, no worrying about pedal settings, etc, etc... Bravo Gitfiddler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Steiner said: THIS! ^^^ What a great idea! No ground loops, no worrying about pedal settings, etc, etc... Bravo Gitfiddler! The Traynor doesn’t have an extension output… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElChoad Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 If it helps, I have a Seymour Duncan Catalina stereo chorus pedal that I could part with. I used to get great sounds out of it, but I don't use it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, DetroitBlues said: The Traynor doesn’t have an extension output… Dean Zink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinking Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 The Quad Cortex, Helix, etc. makes this easy. you get two separate amps and you can run them together or separately. Two deluxes, a deluxe and a Marshall, a Dr. Z and capture of your Traynor, etc. With the Line 6 powercab 212+ you can run each amp into a separate speaker. As I have said in the past, i fought this digital stuff as I am a dyed in the wool tube guy. However it is now that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Steiner said: Dean Zink. Ah, checked again. It does… think it’s 8ohm… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, DetroitBlues said: Ah, checked again. It does… think it’s 8ohm… It "should" be the same as the installed speaker. Remember, the two outputs are wired in parallel. A quick web search should reveal the impedance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslate Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Two amps = PITA...unless you have Bonamassa's crew and tech. What Tim (Gitfiddler) said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bob Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I’ve been running 2 amps for a little bit, love the sound you can get. I have 2 inexpensive small amps, I run one clean and one dirty. Guitar> boost > delay > a,b,y> amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, Steiner said: It "should" be the same as the installed speaker. Remember, the two outputs are wired in parallel. A quick web search should reveal the impedance. I've been searching... Still searching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbp810 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Looks like it is indeed 8ohm, in parallel with internal speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbp810 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Of course to confirm; could always check the impedance of the current internal speaker and see if it falls within the would of what is considered to be 8ohm (likely will ready around 5-7 ohms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 I could easily do that. Unfortunately, I only have a Celestion Creamback Neo in 16ohm, so I'll need to find something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Two 16ohm speakers in parallel is an 8ohm load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitBlues Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Steiner said: Two 16ohm speakers in parallel is an 8ohm load. A 2x12 16ohm cabinet in parallel will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, DetroitBlues said: A 2x12 16ohm cabinet in parallel will work? Yes, IF you put another 16ohm speaker in your amp cab. Perhaps something akin to a Celestion Creamback Neo in 16ohm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Those Traynors are excellent. There's nothing like a pair of 4x12's hooked up to separate amps though. I recall a fun session with a '71 Hiwatt 50w & a '66 jtm100. DB: having two combos is useful in case one of them has trouble, you can flip to the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockabilly69 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 15 hours ago, bolero said: ...I recall a fun session with a '71 Hiwatt 50w & a '66 jtm100. ...that sounds like a rock and roll party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuz Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Are you mic'ing your amp to the PA? if so, no need for anything other than your single combo. If you aren't mic'ing to the PA, with two amps let the decibel wars begin with the drums, bass, and singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 2:16 AM, rockabilly69 said: ...that sounds like a rock and roll party! Yeah, and not necessarily just loud obnoxious volume. At low levels the sound was nice & full: both amps had slightly different sonic signatures that combined into a glorious ocean of sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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